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Lack of English skills from people whose first language is English is becoming scary (pg. 8)
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| th0m |
to/too
Is it not fashionable to use 'too' anymore or something? Or is it a double vowel thing? :p |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
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WTF?? lol
i type fine, but sometimes, and my biggest mistake is instead of typing its i type tis.... which is ok i guess |
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| getfoul |
| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
3) Then / Than
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| Lira |
I wouldn't blame the speakers for this, but the spelling. However, I don't see a way of writing English other than the current one, otherwise every major dialect would have a different way of spelling (although the Americans are already lazy enough to drop the "u" in words like "colour" anyway :p).
For those who are complaining that it's impossible to know what the rules are in English, here they are:
(The ":" after the vowels mean they're the long ones :))
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[i:] - This is a close (high), long, tense, unrounded vowel. It's spelt "e" in words like "economy, remark"; "ee" in words like "eel, see, feet" or "ea" in words like "each, seal, plea". Other possible spellings are "ie" as in "fiend"; "ei" "seizing"; "i" "machine"; or execptionally "ey" in "key"; "ay" in "quay"; "eo" in "people"; "oe" "Oedipus" or "eau" in "Beauchamp".
[i] - This is a more retracted front vowel, and its degree of openness is close to that which some languages would consider as "e". It's the second commonest English vowel in stressed positions, and it can be spelt "i" as in "ill, tick" or "y" in "syntax, party". Exceptions would me "o" and "e" in "women" and "day" in the days of the week.
[e] - This is where we would have some problems in writing differently in English, as the realisation of this vowel is quite peculiar in Australian English, for example. This word neer occurs in final position, being reduced to [i] or to [uh] whenever unstressed. It's spelled "e" as in "fell" or "ea" in "lead".
[ae] - It's a short, lax, unrounded vowel, a little higher than the cardinal vowel [a], reason why many foreigners can't hear the difference between [ae] and [e] (I know I couldn't till I learned phonetics). Either spelt "a" as in "act, fact" or, exceptionally "ai" as in "plait".
[a:] - This is a very open vowel pronounced in the back of the mouth. It's spelt "a" before "r" (jar, carpet), a silent "l" (calm, palm), sometimes "f" or "ff" (after, staff) or "ss" (pass, class) or "th"... however it can be pronounced as [ae] in many dialects. In all of them though, it can be spelled exceptionally as "au" (aunt), "er" (Berkeley, sergeant), "a" (father)...
[o] - In American English it's merged with the previous vowel so it's hard to distinguish "pot" from "part". Usually spelt "o", but "ou", "a" and "au" also happen in exceptions like "cough", "want" and "laurel".
[aw] - closer and longer than [o], it's usually spelt "aw" or "au" (awl, august). If it occurs in final position, it's followed by a consonand (even if not pronounce) or a silent "e" (sore, port). Can be spelt "oo" as in "floor", "oa" as in "broad" and "ough" as in "sought", "a" as in "water, wrath" or "ou" as in "course, source"
[ue] - Closer than [aw] but more opened than [u:], and only happens in medial position. Usually spelt "u" as in "put" or "o" after "w" as in "wolf, worcester". Before the letters "k", "t", "d", "l" and "m" it may be spelled "oo" (look, foot, wood, wool, room)... or "ou" in verbal forms like "would, should, could"
[u:] - Longer (and more closed) than [ue], happens pretty much everywhere (oom, oomph, ooze, rude, crew)... and it's got all those ways of spelling too.
[^] - It's a central, half-open, short, unrounded vowel. Usually spelt "u" as in "under, but", "o" as in "come, front", exceptionally "oo" as in "blood, flood" and "oe" as in "does".
[uh] - The most used sound in English, as it's the standard pronounciation (along with [i]) of unstressed syllables. Therefore, whenever a syllable is unstressed, chances are this is the sound to be used.
[3:] - It's the long "uh", spelt "ir", "ur", "er" or "yr" as in "first, curtain, fur, refer". Exceptions are "our" (courtesy, journal) and, exceptionally "olo" in "colonel".
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Looks complicated, but once you read it, your pronounciation (and consequently, your spelling) will be a lot better :) |
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| Streakfury |
| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
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**smack**
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| brian |
| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
I don't get it...
Over the past 3 or 4 years I've noticed a HUGE increase in the number of people confusing:
1) Loser / Looser
2) Your / You're
3) Then / Than
4) There / Their / They're
5) CDs / CD's
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AAAAH I hate it when people mix these up. It's really not that hard to grasp the concept of contractions.
... Actually there's no difficulty involved whatsoever.
| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
They're a good band so I don't think you're a loser if you use that loose change in your pockets to buy their CDs from the store over there. |
Yey, nicely done. |
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| xGirlx |
| Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny prmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe. |
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| whiskers |
| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
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you bastard, i've been searching for this thread forever and couldn't find it to bump it up!!!! :whip::whip: |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by xGirlx
Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny prmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe. |
OMG the RIAA is suing people!?
John Ritter died!?
Translation: Welcome to last YEAR, that's so old that it gets posted as a joke in response to other old garbage.
Must have thought it was very clever though. :rolleyes: Dear lord I was hoping I'd never have to see it again... |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
OMG the RIAA is suing people!?
John Ritter died!?
Translation: Welcome to last YEAR, that's so old that it gets posted as a joke in response to other old garbage.
Must have thought it was very clever though. :rolleyes: Dear lord I was hoping I'd never have to see it again... |
Aaron, relax. I think she was joking. And the post fits very well with the thread.
Woke up in a bad mood today? |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
Aaron, relax. I think she was joking. And the post fits very well with the thread.
Woke up in a bad mood today? |
Really? I thought she was telling the truth! I thought they really did do that study! I thought she was honestly trying to educate us about spelling and grammar and how they really don't matter! I would have never figured out that it was a joke until you told me!!
...yes, I know it was a joke, my point was that it's older than my great grampa. And not only that, but it's the bastardized unoriginal version too. |
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| UWM |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
OMG the RIAA is suing people!?
John Ritter died!?
Translation: Welcome to last YEAR, that's so old that it gets posted as a joke in response to other old garbage.
Must have thought it was very clever though. :rolleyes: Dear lord I was hoping I'd never have to see it again... |
Wow.
The shining ray of light in everyone's otherwise gloomy day.
:rolleyes: |
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