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festivals & drugs (pg. 4)
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| Beat Blog |
Regardless of morality, without alcohol and cigs, our economy would literally collapse.
Hence, the goverment is attempting to gradually fade-out cigarette sales over the next two decades, until eventually there are none.
The only problem is that there are still 14 year old dip s taking it up... |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beat Blog
Hence, the goverment is attempting to gradually fade-out cigarette sales over the next two decades, until eventually there are none. |
what planet are you on? that'll never happen. |
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| gumble |
| I love smoking. I miss it so much. |
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| Beat Blog |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
what planet are you on? that'll never happen. |
Why do you say that? |
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| DJ_Ballistic |
| quote: | Originally posted by eRRaTiK
I'm not going to argue with the lack of extensive studies, duration, etc. however what I don't understand is for the drugs (tobacco/nicotine and alcohol) that we DO HAVE extensive research about why they're still widely available and not classed as highly dangerous to society. It'a definitely not in the best interest of the general public that these things can be bought over the counter anywhere with valid proof of age. |
trying to make illegal anything that has been a big part of society for so long, probably isn't going to go down well...
alcohol isn't that bad for you so long as you're sensible
also pretty much everyone knows the effects of smoking now and education has decreased the number of smokers, and making it illegal might reduce that even further, but there'd still be a large number of people looking for ways to get their fix... |
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| MiSSyM |
| quote: | Originally posted by gumble
At least with alcohol, you can quite easily be within your limits. With uncontrolled substances, you often can get more than you thought you would.
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some people dont have limits with alcohol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
or even if they do it still makes em scitz it.
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| EgosXII |
| quote: | Originally posted by eRRaTiK
It'a definitely not in the best interest of the general public that these things can be bought over the counter anywhere with valid proof of age. |
if you can say that, then I assume you don't stand for democracy...
the great thing about tobacco is that people have the information/know how bad it is for them, but the choice is still there for them: i quite enjoy a calming smoke every once in a while, or while wasted on pills (double dose of badness :D) the best people can do for defense against pills is claim ignorance: i.e: "as far as i know, there are no long-term side-effects" :tongue2
about the whole banning tobaco thing, i think it'd just be a big step backwards: the use of any form of drug should be run thru some sort of governed body (controlling contents etc (which cigarettes are)), and the people should be made aware of the side-effects, and then let to run wild :gsmile:
i think there would be far fewer OD's, and possibly even less use (even if it's more use, at least it's safer, and bodies would be in place to control consequences) if all drugs were legalized--
but that's just a dream ;) |
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| gumble |
| quote: | Originally posted by MiSSyM
some people dont have limits with alcohol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
or even if they do it still makes em scitz it.
:eek: |
I meant that you are served / buy standard drinks, you can be resposnible by knowing how much you are drinking.
You don't often know how strong a drug is before you take it. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beat Blog
Why do you say that? |
australia isnt the kind of country that would ban smoking, that's all. its fairly entrenched in our society, and asides from smokers, there'd still be opposition to a ban from liberals and civil libertarians etc.
the topic is too polarising for any politician to touch it. and i dont know exactly which level of government we're talking about anyway, if its a state's right... well, you get the picture.
it's an unwarranted infringement on the right to be a ;) what's next? motor vehicles? junk food? stupidity? ;)
if smoking is ever banned in australia, it will be well after we're all dead. |
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| Beat Blog |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
australia isnt the kind of country that would ban smoking, that's all. its fairly entrenched in our society, and asides from smokers, there'd still be opposition to a ban from liberals and civil libertarians etc.
the topic is too polarising for any politician to touch it. and i dont know exactly which level of government we're talking about anyway, if its a state's right... well, you get the picture.
it's an unwarranted infringement on the right to be a ;) what's next? motor vehicles? junk food? stupidity? ;)
if smoking is ever banned in australia, it will be well after we're all dead. |
I don't kid myself and think it will be made illegal any time soon, but I think it will beaten down to the point til it's about as popular as smoking of tobacco in pipes is these days...almost nonexistent. |
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| gumble |
my mate and i were so going to bring pipe smoking back in.
i still use a pipe to smoke..... other stuff :) |
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