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| ninjahola |
This has been bugging me for the past little while...What the fuk is the deal with the direction all my favorite DJs and producers are going??? Every Diggers transition mix, Sasha mix, Coxy global mix, and even Lawler now, is sounding worse than ever (imo). What happened to the days where a diggers transition set would get you going so hard it would pump you up for anything? Or the Global coxy set that was such driving deep dark techno you were terrified after? What are all these bleeps and samples? What happened to the long hard driving bassline? Does anyone rememeber in Groove where diggers throws on heaven scent and the crowd goes bull? (okay I don't know what that has to do with anything, but its a good scene nonetheless!) But seriously is it just that all my faves are evolving into robots? I mean they must be to take pleasure in listening to this confusing dribble. I suppose i'm just nostalgic about the days of DJs making you dance so hard you have to take a break to catch your breath...Now i haven't been to a gig in a while, but have every live set or mix that is available on the net up to date. And they are getting worse and worse. I haven't heard a set that had me moving my head to throughout in a long long while (from my faves). I'm finding myself online looking for sets that i'll like, but its hard to accept the idea that all these djs who i followed for years and saw many many times live are evolving..But maybe I just don't get it. I tell you one thing though, if sasha and digweed played the they are playing now in front of the buenos aires crowd of 2006....Lets just say it wouldn't be much of a video.
Someone explain this to me. I miss my faves.
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| Spin Laden |
| quote: | Originally posted by ninjahola
I haven't heard a set that had me moving my head to throughout in a long long while (from my faves). |
lol, I can sympathize. I've been downloading all sorts of sets from djs big and small but can't find enough hard charging tracks in there.. a dj will drop one or two powerful, charging tracks and then that's it. |
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| Dj Nacht |
| I ask myself the same questions sometimes but the answer is that the music is evolving. I remember going out and dancing for 8 hours straight because the music was so grooving and pumping. I guess back then producers where making toons for raping dancefloors and now they make em more for pleasing ears. |
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| Allied Nations |
it seems like every musical genre has taken to abstraction...
and fact of the matter is the music being made now just isn't being made like it was 3 or 4 years ago so DJs have had no choice but to change it up a bit so they aren't just playing old records |
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| Ravemontreal |
First, I think you have to go out, and stop listening to live online sets. Sasha and Digs were actually pretty hard and intense @ Forum Pepsi. If you download a Ibiza Broadcast you can be sure not to find that intensity. Just like I almost never heard a Lawler live sets that was nearly has dark has what he can do.
Second, it is a fact, and I see it every week, people are TIRED. A set like I did last 2 weeks was very border line in terms of intensity were I could either lift them or loose them. And I was playing at 127 bpm. Very touchy. The energy is simply not there on a weekly basis.
If they play like this, there's a reason. Of course some of them will go to deep and loose the party feel, but most realized that BPM's had dropped considerably around the world. People get exhausted on 130 bpms. |
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| Spin Laden |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ravemontreal
First, I think you have to go out, and stop listening to live online sets. |
soooo true |
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| RayRayy |
Thats what alot of my freinds said who partied in the mid-90's. The reasons they left the scene... other than the music was getting too mainstream but that headliner dj's are getting lazy.
I still prefer to listen to older Lawler and Morillo sets now than ever... |
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| ninjahola |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ravemontreal
First, I think you have to go out, and stop listening to live online sets. Sasha and Digs were actually pretty hard and intense @ Forum Pepsi. If you download a Ibiza Broadcast you can be sure not to find that intensity. Just like I almost never heard a Lawler live sets that was nearly has dark has what he can do.
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You're right. Of course being there is important, just like hearing you tear it up at aria for 5 hours, and then hearing your mixes. They are simply not comparable. I've been going to gigs since Sona opened. Even from those days to a couple years ago, the overall theme of the music hardly changed. Now it seems (like you said) people are tired. Its just a shame, because I'm certainly not tired, and i hope to never be. |
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| Spin Laden |
| quote: | Originally posted by RayRayy
Thats what alot of my freinds said who partied in the mid-90's. The reasons they left the scene... other than the music was getting too mainstream but that headliner dj's are getting lazy.
I still prefer to listen to older Lawler and Morillo sets now than ever... |
don't forget the crappy tabs :p |
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| Mr Moss |
as a listener, when I get bored with a certain sound or group of djs, I just move on to explore another genre, and you kind of rotate so that you dont get too bored sitting around in 1 place unless the kind of style your into is fulfilling at the moment, this especially when theres prolly more djs and material out there then hours left in my lifetime.. might as well survey the terrain as much as possible
on a sidenote some ppl here seem to think the transitions show has been on a high note towards the end of 07 |
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| Spin Laden |
| quote: | Originally posted by RayRayy
I still prefer to listen to older Lawler and Morillo sets now than ever... |
| quote: | Originally posted by Invasionmix
This argument is so true.. In a interview I listened with Ferry Corsten he said the quality of ALL music decreased because the market has been so saturated with tons of crap music, like few years ago a track would have to be really good in order for it to be worth it to press into vinyl and released. Now if you look on beatport there's thousands of labels and if you listen to a random track on it would most likely suck.
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you guys think there's any relation here? Is there any truth to what Corsten is saying? This is straying a bit from what Ninja is saying but maybe there's some connection, aside from other points mentioned.. |
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| Haki |
Very simple answer.
These DJs are all getting ... OLD.
Even Sven can't hold a mix for more than 30 seconds now :(
They should leave new talents take their place and bring up the scene, cuz its going down. |
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