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how is hilary more experienced than obama? (pg. 3)
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| DJ Shibby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
more experienced at being a crooked politician. It's all in the eyes. Obama is like an altar boy in church whereas Hillary is like the priest just waiting to ass the next unsuspecting child.
Hey--what's the worst thing about ing an 8 year-old? Wiping the blood off your clown suit. Heyooooo! |
Wow... the fact that you thought of that is a little out there. :eek: |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Wow... the fact that you thought of that is a little out there. :eek: |
I only wish I could claim ownership of that joke.:cool: |
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
I only wish I could claim ownership of that joke.:cool: |
well thank the gods, cause I was a lil worried about ATL ;)
and I agree with that as well.
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I was so disappointed in Obama on this past debate.... he could of handed Clinton her sack lunch and sent her packing with the Vote that gave Bush the power to take us into the cluster known as the Iraq War... but he pussed out.
Did you see how uncomfortable she was talking about it..... |
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| donnybrasco |
| ^^^I'd like to give her my "Erectoral Vote" ;) |
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| Q5echo |
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
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:D |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Experience going out to fancy restaurants and experience playing golf? :stongue: |
right, but seriously...
| quote: | | There is no such thing as "experience" in the leadership of a nation. A person either has leadership understanding and leadership qualities, or they don't. |
it's obvious you and i have different definitions of "leadership", not to mention what qualifies as competency in managing one of the largest and most cosequential beaurcracies in the world.
maybe your response was kinda half hearted but you sound like you're off on some philisophical tangent with "no such thing as experience in the leadership of a nation." of course no one has experience in leading a nation, it's done when you're chosen. it's what qualifies you to lead a nation that people consider in you being chosen. some are more qualified than others. some, as it applies to this race, are ridiculously more qualified to lead from the Executive Branch of government than others...and in the United States, the electorate usually considers the person with the most managerial, senior administrative, and top executive EXPERIENCE.
seldom does one person lead a nation. espescially in these fat, dumb, and happy times. IDEALS lead a nation. now we can disagree on those ideals all day but ultimately, someone in their position of elected power leads from those ideals.
maybe you're content with someone less qualified. you take chances when you do that. be prepared to defend those outcomes when the time comes...or not.
| quote: | | we can all agree that our current mess of a president has neither, nor has any of his "experience" led him to ever make a choice that did him or us any bit of good. |
at one point Bush did lead this nation. he led it well and to us 30% he still does.
in the last 18 months he's been one of the most effective lame duck Presidents in recent memory because of his leadership. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Original Quote By Toby Ziegler of The West Wing:
The man in that job shouldn't have to be presented with anything! It's for someone who grabs it and holds on to it, for someone who thinks the gods have conspired to bring him to this place, that destiny demands of him this service! If you don't have that kind of drive, that hubris, how in the hell are you going to make the kind of decisions that stump every other person in this country? How in the hell are you going to hold that kind of power in your hand?! |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
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is that something you agree with? |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
is that something you agree with? |
Toby was proved wrong in Season 7. ;)
To a point, yes. But I think it is dangerous to judge based on who most wants the office. One of the most appealing aspects of Obama's campaign is that he frames his candidacy in very selfless terms - that he feels he has the unique ability to contribute to the betterment of American society, and for that reason and that reason alone he is compelled to run for higher office.
The best candidate should not be determined on their decisiveness in announcing their candidacy - if anything, that should be scrutinized. Why are they running? The decision to run should be a deeply conflictive one in my opinion. It is a tremendous responsibility, and as such, it should weigh somewhat on the conscience. Before a candidate commits to running, he or she should be absolutely convinced that it is his or her unique gifts that will best serve the American people. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Toby was proved wrong in Season 7. ;)
To a point, yes. |
agree. a tad dramatic but thats Hollywood for you i guess.
| quote: | | But I think it is dangerous to judge based on who most wants the office. One of the most appealing aspects of Obama's campaign is that he frames his candidacy in very selfless terms - that he feels he has the unique ability to contribute to the betterment of American society, and for that reason and that reason alone he is compelled to run for higher office. |
i think anybody who runs for POTUS falls in that "person who most wants it" catagory. sure there are going to be subtleties and un-subtleties from candidate to candidate but i believe they all are objects of their own narcissism.
| quote: | | The best candidate should not be determined on their decisiveness in announcing their candidacy - if anything, that should be scrutinized. Why are they running? The decision to run should be a deeply conflictive one in my opinion. It is a tremendous responsibility, and as such, it should weigh somewhat on the conscience. Before a candidate commits to running, he or she should be absolutely convinced that it is his or her unique gifts that will best serve the American people. |
sure but ideological issues aside, what makes a particular candidate the most qualified in times of national crisis and entanglement during their term as the elected leader of the free world, that's the ultimate yardstick by which to judge potential competency.
career legislators and committee men, almost by definition, fail to make the cut compared to more qualified individuals IMO. and the U.S. electorate has reflected that view for almost 50 years now.
IMO there are definitive differences in executive capacity among the current candidates |
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