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how is hilary more experienced than obama? (pg. 4)
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| DJ Shibby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
agree. a tad dramatic but thats Hollywood for you i guess.
i think anybody who runs for POTUS falls in that "person who most wants it" catagory. sure there are going to be subtleties and un-subtleties from candidate to candidate but i believe they all are objects of their own narcissism.
sure but ideological issues aside, what makes a particular candidate the most qualified in times of national crisis and entanglement during their term as the elected leader of the free world, that's the ultimate yardstick by which to judge potential competency.
career legislators and committee men, almost by definition, fail to make the cut compared to more qualified individuals IMO. and the U.S. electorate has reflected that view for almost 50 years now.
IMO there are definitive differences in executive capacity among the current candidates |
So you basically just contradicted your statement on experience by pointing out (also) that experience is only attainable during the run.
Do you even know what you want anymore? |
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| Massive84 |
I am curious about something.
If Hilary becomes president. Is Bill going to make the decesions for her behind closed doors? Because that is what some people are speculating. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by Massive84
I am curious about something.
If Hilary becomes president. Is Bill going to make the decesions for her behind closed doors? Because that is what some people are speculating. |
Hillary has said that her husband will not be privy to any decision-making process in the White House and would probably instead be sent around the world as a goodwill ambassador. |
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| donnybrasco |
| quote: | Originally posted by Massive84
I am curious about something.
If Hilary becomes president. Is Bill going to make the decesions for her behind closed doors? Because that is what some people are speculating. |
Of course the door will be closed. If he's learned anything about having sex while in the Oval Orifice, it's that from now on; "Close the Door!"
:tongue2
Thank you! Thank you!
Two shows on Sunday! |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
Drudge is an idiot who takes everything out of context. My two cents.
She got teary-eyed after an old college professor's introduction, but quickly recovered. It was hardly an emotional breakdown, and thus, hardly equatable to the breakdown before New Hampshire.
As Joe Klein said:
| quote: | | I wasn't there with Hillary Clinton when she lost it today--I'm on the road with Obama--but I do know this: She worked at the Yale Child Study Center when she was in law school. This is one of the core commitments of her life. And, from personal experience, I know the amazing work that is done at Yale by the most remarkable team of doctors and psychologists and learning experts I've ever encountered. I vote genuine...and second that emotion. And let's stop trying to evaluate that which is unevaluatable. |
http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/...he_emotion.html
And also, if you take a look at the national poll, it isn't all good news for Obama. CBS is claiming that Hillary maintains a sizable lead in the states having primaries on Feb. 5th, and that Obama levels the playing field only by being ahead in states with primaries much later. However, as TPM points out, this goes against the conventional wisdom of this election cycle that has Obama doing much better in states that he has invested time and advertising in.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/176830.php |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Shibby
So you basically just contradicted your statement on experience by pointing out (also) that experience is only attainable during the run. |
i made no such contradiction. you misread my admittedly ambiguous post.
Lebezniatnikov was making an accurate point about how we should or should not vote in relation to candidates framing their Presidential indentities (at least thats how i read it) prior to them taking office. i just injected my opinion on whether or not we consider them being better qualified to handle issues that could come up during their terms.
the key phrase i used was "judging potential competency". maybe you missed it.
i'm just pointing out the obvious. none of this should be new to anybody. you apparently, but nobody who takes the process seriously anyway.
| quote: | | Do you even know what you want anymore? |
anything else, dude? aren't there some drugs somewhere you need to be doing? |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Massive84
I am curious about something.
If Hilary becomes president. Is Bill going to make the decesions for her behind closed doors? |
in theory, you'd have to believe that would be true. not actually him pulling the strings because the decision making process in the Whitehouse is designed specifically for express legal consent of one individual and in order for one Clinton to pull that off or get around the process the other Clinton would have to be a robot basically and the Cabinet and staff would see right through that in a heartbeat. however, i'm convinced it would literally kill him if he wasn't able to influence his wife in the real serious matters if Bill were thinking differently than his wife.
he was the most powerful man in the world for 8 years. his knowledge of that office is inescapable. i wouldn't think for a second he doesn't see himself just as powerful today.
to think that he would sit on the sidelines in the Whitehouse while his other half played the exact same role just doesn't make sense to me.
could be wrong but just the speculation alone should be a deal breaker in considering the other Clinton. |
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| Massive84 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
in theory, you'd have to believe that would be true. not actually him pulling the strings because the decision making process in the Whitehouse is designed specifically for express legal consent of one individual and in order for one Clinton to pull that off or get around the process the other Clinton would have to be a robot basically and the Cabinet and staff would see right through that in a heartbeat. however, i'm convinced it would literally kill him if he wasn't able to influence his wife in the real serious matters if Bill were thinking differently than his wife.
he was the most powerful man in the world for 8 years. his knowledge of that office is inescapable. i wouldn't think for a second he doesn't see himself just as powerful today.
to think that he would sit on the sidelines in the Whitehouse while his other half played the exact same role just doesn't make sense to me.
could be wrong but just the speculation alone should be a deal breaker in considering the other Clinton. |
Frankly that is what i am thinking as well. Don't get me wrong i don't see Bill Clinton as a bad president. I think he did very well, better than the current president. (ofcource that is debatable)
But i think it's unfair. Some reporter said on TV that this is basically a third term for Bill in a way.
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Hillary has said that her husband will not be privy to any decision-making process in the White House and would probably instead be sent around the world as a goodwill ambassador. |
Do you honnestly believe that? |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by Massive84
Do you honnestly believe that? |
Yes and no - I don't think he'll be in the Situation Room for national security decisions, but I do think he would serve as something of a political advisor, which could actually be invaluable since no Democrat understands the rigors of office like he does. I envision his position being akin to that of Rove's in this Administration - a big influence, but not the "decider." |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
So the argument comes down to what you think is more important - familiarity with the institutional responsibilities and challenges of the office of the President on Day 1, or a fresh take on the whole thing. |
I'm Halcyon+On+On, and I approve this message. |
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| ashish_gupta |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
So the argument comes down to what you think is more important - familiarity with the institutional responsibilities and challenges of the office of the President on Day 1, or a fresh take on the whole thing. |
holy crap! if obama wins and it's only a choice between obama and mccain the country is ed! |
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