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Palestine = Anne Frank's Annex
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If you dont know who Anne Frank is? Or what is Anne Frank's Annex is than kindly refer to this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Frank
This is what she wrote at the begening of her house arrest in Amsterdam:
| quote: | It's not really all that bad here, for we can cook for ourselves, and downstairs in Daddy's office we can listen to the radio.... Mr. Kleiman and Miep and also Bep Voskuyl have helped us so much.... We have things to read as well and we are going to buy all sorts of games.
Of course we are not allowed to look out of the window at all or to go outside. Also we have to do everything softly in case they hear us below. |
And this was 3 months before the end of it:
| quote: | | Cycling again, dancing, flirting and what-have-you, how I would love that; if only I were free again! Sometimes I even think, will anybody understand me, will anybody overlook my ingratitude, overlook Jew or non-Jew, and just see the young girl in me who is badly in need of some rollicking fun? |
I sometimes wonder if Israel have made Palestine into little Annex of Anne Frank and how many like her are trapped in there.. Irony!! |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
Slight difference: Anne Frank was hiding because the Nazis were going door to door shipping Jews to death camps.
I think a more apt analogy would be what it was like being a Catholic Parisian from 1940-1944. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by rewind_plz
If you dont know who Anne Frank is? Or what is Anne Frank's Annex is than kindly refer to this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Frank
This is what she wrote at the begening of her house arrest in Amsterdam:
And this was 3 months before the end of it:
I sometimes wonder if Israel have made Palestine into little Annex of Anne Frank and how many like her are trapped in there.. Irony!! |
wow...what's with the palestinian/israeli threads? |
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| rewind_plz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Slight difference: Anne Frank was hiding because the Nazis were going door to door shipping Jews to death camps.
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A prison is a prison, dosent matter if you are in for death penalty or for life term imprisonment.
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
wow... |
I bet that wow is not at the number of threads but at the irony in history..
Everything she wrote in that diary as a jew for german nazis... can be written for jews by a Muslim girl in Palestine. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by rewind_plz
A prison is a prison, dosent matter if you are in for death penalty or for life term imprisonment.
I bet that wow is not at the number of threads but at the irony in history..
Everything she wrote in that diary as a jew for german nazis... can be written for jews by a Muslim girl in Palestine. |
is that based on first hand experience? I think there is a major difference between the situations, mainly that the nazis were taking jewish people and putting them in death camps. While closing off gaza and the west bank and operating military exercises throughout the area are surely oppressing the people, it does not rise to the same level.
to give you an idea: 6 million jews died in the holocaust from about 39-45. In contrast, since the start of the second intefada in 2000 (and until july 2007), only 5,848 people have died (on both sides - including 25% who were israeli). That's a longer period, and many many fewer deaths. How the hell does that even come close? People need to stop treating the events as equal because they aren't even remotely close in scale or in shear disregard for human welfare. you severely undercut your credibility by making those claims.
http://domino.un.org/UNISPAl.NSF/2f...72!OpenDocument |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
wow...what's with the palestinian/israeli threads? |
Welcome to PDD my friend! |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
wow...what's with the palestinian/israeli threads? |
I wish I knew =/ |
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
I wish I knew =/ |
PDD is like Trance was a few years back when it comes to Palestine/Israel.... you can only hear ing Sandstorm so many times
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| colonelcrisp |
| quote: | Originally posted by LazFX
PDD is like Trance was a few years back when it comes to Palestine/Israel.... you can only hear ing Sandstorm so many times before you stop giving a ....
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sorry i had to add to that one a bit....
similar to the infamous 9/11 propaganda (it ceased being a debate years ago....) when the same people keep posting the same biased crap day in day out, people just stop caring about it. The same goes for the israel/palestine debate. No side of the argument is right, both sides have been at fault and pointing fingers at "who dunnit" first isnt progressing this argument anywhere. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by colonelcrisp
No side of the argument is right, both sides have been at fault and pointing fingers at "who dunnit" first isnt progressing this argument anywhere. |
Precisely. Unfortunately the exact same thing happens among the leaders of Israel and Hamas... so the violence continues. |
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| colonelcrisp |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Precisely. Unfortunately the exact same thing happens among the leaders of Israel and Hamas... so the violence continues. |
In my opinion there are many groups who fit this mould, native americans, and the civil rights movement are prime examples, minorities resorting to the "race card" and citing historical injustices to explain current hardships, or the aborigional stance of "you took our land, bla bla bla" argument as to why there are all the problems that exist on the reservations today. Now granted both of these groups have very complicated issues etc, but no one is willing to wipe the slate clean and try to better themselves and their communities. They keep on falling back on the same old excuses as to why they are where they are. Im not saying that their problems are solely their fault, but until they learn to stop blaming things that happened to their people 20,30,40,50, even 200 years ago for their problems today, they are never going to get anywhere.
Its sort of like forgiving your wife for cheating on you then berrating her for it for the rest of her life.....
Forgive, forget, move on, or get the hell out of the way... |
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| quote: | GIVE!
Do any of those people in their warm and cozy living rooms have any idea what kind of life a beggar leads?
Do any of those "good" and "kind" people ever wonder about the lives of so many of the children and adults around them? Granted, everyone has given a coin to a beggar at some time or another, though they usually just shove it into his hand and slam the door. And in most cases the generous donors think it's disgusting to touch that hand! Am I right or not? Then, afterwards, people are amazed that beggars are so shameless! Wouldn't you be shameless too if you were treated more like a dog than a human being?
It's terrible, really terrible, that people treat each other this way in a country like Holland, which claims to have such a good social system and so many decent, upstanding citizens. In the eyes of most of the well-to-do, a beggar is an inferior being, somebody who's scruffy and unwashed, pushy and rude. But have they ever asked themselves how beggars got to be that way?
You should try comparing one of those beggar children with your own children! What's the difference? Yours are pretty and neat, the others are ugly and ragged! Is that all? Yes, that's all, that's the only difference. If you dressed one of those urchins in nice clothes and taught him good manners, there wouldn't be a whit of difference!
Everyone is born equal; we all come into the world helpless and innocent. We all breathe the same air, and many of us believe in the same God. And yet...and yet, to many people this one small difference is a huge one! It's huge because many people have never realized what the difference is, for if they had they would have discovered long ago that there's actually no difference at all!
Everyone is born equal; we will all die and shed our earthly glory. Riches, power and fame last for only a few short years. Why do we cling so desperately to these fleeting things? Why can't people who have money more than enough for their own needs give the rest to their fellow human beings? Why should anyone have to have such a hard life for those few short years on earth?
But above all, a gift should never be flung in anyone's face� - every person has a right to kindness. Why should you be nicer to a rich lady than to a poor one? Has anyone ever studied the difference in their characters?
Human greatness does not lie in wealth or power, but in character and goodness. People are just people, and all people have faults and shortcomings, but all of us are born with a basic goodness. If we were to start by adding to that goodness instead of stifling it, by giving poor people the feeling that they too are human beings, we wouldn't necessarily have to give money or material things, since not everyone has them to give.
Everything starts in small ways, so in this case you can begin in small ways too. On streetcars, for example, don't just offer your seat to rich mothers, think of the poor ones too. And say "excuse me" when you step on a poor person's toe, just as you say it to a rich one.
It takes so little effort, yet it means so much. Why shouldn't you show a little kindness to those poor urchins who are already so deprived?
We all know that "example is better than precept." So set a good example, and it won't take long for others to follow. More and more people will become kind and generous, until finally no one will ever again look down on those without money. Oh, if only we were already that far! If only Holland, then Europe, and finally the whole world realized how unfair it was being, if only the time would come when people treated each other with genuine good will, in the realization that we're all equal and that worldly things are transitory!
How wonderful it is that no one has to wait, but can start right now to gradually change the world! How wonderful it is that everyone, great and small, can immediately help bring about justice by giving of themselves!
As with so many things, most people seek justice in very different quarters, and grumble because they themselves receive so little of it.
Open your eyes, be fair in your own dealings first! Give whatever there is to give! You can always�always�give something, even if it's a simple act of kindness! If everyone were to give in this way and didn't scrimp on kindly words, there would be much more love and justice in the world!
Give and you shall receive, much more that you ever thought possible. Give and give again. Keep hoping, keep trying, keep giving! People who give will never be poor!
If you follow this advice, within a few generations, people will never have to feel sorry for poor little beggar children again, because there won't be any!
The world has plenty of room, riches, money and beauty. God has created enough for each and every one of us. Let us begin by dividing it more fairly.
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