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Why would you want to see someone die? (pg. 2)
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| Ghost Raver |
Well here's a news report of one of the intestines sucking that happened, and the girl in this case survived.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA3YRbBwwxk
NothingToxic is one of my "visit daily" sites :D |
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| chucho |
| that site is ed up :wtf: |
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| wotyzoid |
| that's the lowest of the low.... |
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| Lira |
I really don't think I should click this link before going to bed. At all.
G'night, guys... |
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| leph555 |
Why the would you make a site like that
why couldnt they just make another porn site? |
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| DJ Mikey Mike |
| Curious. I'm suddenly feeling the urge to go and have a wank. :cool: |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Curious. I'm suddenly feeling the urge to go and have a wank. :cool: |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
It is an attractive notion because it is one considered taboo or criminal; the appeal comes from the shock of something quite a rare sight in many parts of the world where general safety is encouraged as standard, especially the sort of mandates thought to prevent people from dying from anything but seemingly domestic occurrences of violence or accidents. That is to say, it's [where I live at least] not an everyday occurrence that I see someone cut in half or missing their head or whatnot, as this is typically a breach of safe conduct, one not conducive to our nature as perpetuating beings.
I would very much liken the fascination with death and gruesome violence as that of fascination with pornography. Both aspects have their inexorable histories with the human condition as well as their appeal to our nature as survival-based orchestrators exercising our abilities and sentience so far as to explore both the creation and destruction of ourselves. Ultimately, however, I would say that both "industries" are products of society manifested in individuals to varying degrees and scarce much more. Is it "sick"? Is it "wrong"? Perhaps the argument of action versus intention is one left best untouched by the denizens of this place, but please make it a point to think about why people are fascinated by occular input. I do believe that if you are seeking a resolution to "why", that would be the best [mis]direction. :gsmile: |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
excellent post from halcyon.
there is also the fact that these videos serve a useful purpose from an education standpoint. someone might be less inclined to support the use of say, mines, if they've seen them in actual use.
macabre documentary. |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ghost Raver
Well here's a news report of one of the intestines sucking that happened, and the girl in this case survived.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA3YRbBwwxk
NothingToxic is one of my "visit daily" sites :D | Her intestine was pulled out through her ? HOLY :nervous: |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
there is also the fact that these videos serve a useful purpose from an education standpoint. someone might be less inclined to support the use of say, mines, if they've seen them in actual use.
| ahhhh.. Are you kidding? People know what mines do, you dont need to see a video to figure it out. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
there is also the fact that these videos serve a useful purpose from an education standpoint. someone might be less inclined to support the use of say, mines, if they've seen them in actual use.
macabre documentary. |
I think that's definitely true in some cases, but I also believe a far more interesting point lies in the fixation on such a thing. For example, I know one guy [not really a friend of mine] who is set to go to Iraq with the US Army in September. He is seriously entertained by videos he finds on Iraqis being killed and most other people find them quite distasteful, but he persists in insisting on their entertainment value. People I have known who have returned from Iraq all seem to have numerous and concurrent stories on the trade among soldiers there for pictures/videos of Iraqis being tortured or killed; pornography, cigarettes, etc - these things, these rarities, buy such grotesqueries. And why? Is it a morbid fascination or a 'sick' sort of mentality that has lead to such a thing? If that were so, it would not be as common as it were. If that were so, horror movies and violence in our society would not be such an exceedingly staple component of our society supposedly based on things like peace and forgiveness and generosity and, well, you know where I am going with this and you know enough to know that it's mostly bull.
There is an obsessive and feral twist to each and every person - and the fixation on death, dismemberment, a distortion of the bodies we take for granted - it is nothing more than a reflection of this sort of metaphysical indulgence. Leave your morals and your commonplace retainment for normality at the door and you might just begin to understand why it is we delve into the absurd and the surreal deformation of society in the first place, just as people delve into the realms of sexual exploration. Tell me - what is the morality of a knife? I know I have asked this same question before in my Violence thread, but what is our attachment to things which split? Penetration by phallice and penetration by knife seem differential only by intent or approval of orifice by biological means. If these thin veils dissolve, what are we left with? I think De Sade would say Freedom, freedom....
We recoil in horror at the actual sight of someone viciously killed by accident as a sort of retro-empathy. We seethe with hatred at the thought of our family members being killed by another human being that is not ourselves as an act of jealousy; as a resentment of networks and of dismissal for individual consideration. We revel in the news of people being killed by bombs or guns or mere politics with a judgmental sort of detachment. Serves them right for living there. And yet are so unprepared and terrorized with the implications of our own demise; conditioned by a pesudoreligious hegemony of indoctrinated yet undeserving reverence for those "fallen" we can mourn in empathetic revelry alongside. What difference does it make though? Particles to dust; dust to ashes; ashes to particles. It's not that this makes sense insofar as a humanistic perspective is concerned.
In case some of you did not know: death as entertainment is far more a celebration of life than it is a "sick" fascination or a loss of moral fibre. I think you have far more to fear for your own survival from those who are morbidly afraid to explore the depths of their own mortality through others by means of empathetic reaction. Fear the people who have not seen it; fear those who think that they can live forever and that killing is just a game. For these are the people who are desensitized through inexperience and that sheltering sort of control so awesomely utilized by propagandists and patriotic puppeteers of moral direction who would use the uninformed and proselytized for their own ends. |
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