Gotta love that Redline energy drink I drink before I go ou hese days....though I'm not sure if this is regarding the 7 hour energy Redline shot drink that's basically the same as a five hour energy or the bigger bottle I drink..either way each bottle is two servings and these are 12 year kids drinking the whole thing. I blame the schools for not reacting fast enough to knowing how it can effect you if you have too much of it...and it'd be easy for it to mess up a middle school kid.
I wouldn't be opposed to laws being formed, personally. I remmeber when I startefd with all the energy stuff back in the 90s I would get sick because I was just too dumb to realize that I should read the label / figure out my tolerance. What's interesting is the CEO of the company that owns Redline used to be a teacher and support schools banning it and has even offered his local disrict $25,000 if the go through with the ban...know some company's would defend thei product, nice to see them at least knowing up fron that policies need to be made....start with the schools as it's easier, then work on laws.
BTW, it starts off saying how they will ban high-caffiene drinks...when Redline has a cup of weak coffee's worth (75mg per servine, 150mg in the bottle...which is nothing for most adults if they drink it properly. A good cup of coffee usually has more towards 100mg of caffiene per cup!) as it's the B Vitamins they focus on to give you the energy (it's hy my face gets red for a while lol...there's also 5HTP in it.
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School board may ban energy drinks
The Broward County School Board is weighing a ban on high-caffeine energy drinks, reflecting national concern over the physical effects on teenagers.
Four teenagers from Falcon Cove Middle School in Weston were taken to a hospital emergency room this month, their hearts racing and bodies dripping with sweat.
The substance that sent them there was the energy and weight-loss drink Redline, which packs all the caffeine of coffee, and more: Its half-dozen added ingredients are claimed to lift mood and energy levels, lower appetite -- even improve memory.
The temporary scare -- the students are fine now -- has Broward County School Board members ready to ban high-octane energy drinks from school campuses.
''You see something like a 12-year-old drinking one of these, and it's really scary,'' board member Beverly Gallagher said at a meeting.
Board members last week took the first steps toward putting Redline and drinks like it off-limits on campus. Students already cannot buy the beverages at school in Broward or Miami-Dade County, but they can bring them on campus -- as one of the teenagers at Falcon Cove did. The board is working on an advisory for parents.
The moves reflect growing national concern over minors' access to the highly popular energy drinks, which 7-Eleven reports are the fastest growing item in its cold-beverage case. Laws banning their sale to minors are under discussion in Kentucky and Idaho, although a similar proposal died recently in Maine. A California government health agency is considering mandatory warning labels.
''Broward is probably on the leading edge of this,'' said Jeff Wahlen, president of the Florida School Board Attorneys Association. ``Banning things that make it difficult for kids to concentrate and study is, I think, clearly in bounds.''
An attorney for the Tallahassee-area Leon County School Board, Wahlen said he is not aware of any bans.
Davie parent William Britton said his son Joseph, 14, one of the four Falcon Cove students, quickly recovered after his trip to the hospital. Britton said that Joseph can't have Redline and similar drinks at home and that his son thought his friend's drink was Monster, an energy drink not marketed as a weight-loss beverage.
Britton supports a ban: ``If they say children under 18 shouldn't be drinking them, you shouldn't be able to buy them.''
The ban has another key supporter: the chief executive officer of the Davie-based company that makes Redline.
VPX/Redline CEO Jack Owoc -- a former Broward teacher -- has offered the district $25,000 toward enacting a ban and says he supports prohibiting minors from buying the drinks.
''Energy drinks are made for adults only,'' he wrote in an e-mail. ``Children should derive enough energy from a healthy diet, daily exercise and eight hours or more of sleep.''
Labeled ''the ultimate energy rush,'' Redline is one of the few energy drinks that carry a warning against consumption by children. The product includes ingredients that can affect body chemistry, including evodiamine, a plant extract that can raise body temperature; yohimbine HCL, which can affect blood pressure; and 5-hydroxy-L-tryptophan, which can boost levels of mood-altering serotonin in the brain.
''Children have super-high natural hormone levels that assist in physical and mental growth and maturation,'' Owoc said. ``These hormones provide an endless supply of natural energy. Further, children do not understand the concept of moderation and caution, which needs to be practiced with energy drinks. Kids always think if one is good, more must be better.''
The American Beverage Association supports banning the sale of energy drinks at school, but that's it.
''If parents allow teens to bring energy drinks to schools, that is their decision to make,'' said spokeswoman Tracey Halliday.
Federal law doesn't limit caffeine content or require listing it on labels, said Kimberly Rawlings, a spokeswoman for the Food and Drug Administration.
A 1958 FDA decision declared foods with 0.02 percent caffeine content to be ``generally regarded as safe.''
''Thus, companies may decide that other uses are generally regarded as safe and market on that basis,'' Rawlings said.
For more than a decade, organizations including the Center for Science in the Public Interest and the American Medical Association have lobbied the FDA to force food manufacturers to list the amount of caffeine on product labels.
About a year ago, Doherty High in Colorado Springs banned energy drinks after two students went to the hospital after drinking an energy drink called Spike Shooter, a district spokeswoman said.
An eight-ounce can of Spike Shooter has 300 milligrams of caffeine -- more than six times the amount in a 12-ounce Diet Coke, and more than double the amount in Redline.
The effects of caffeine on children have not been studied extensively.
Beyond caffeine and other energy boosters in the drinks, though, some see the nonalcoholic drinks as a gateway to alcoholic versions.
Just a few weeks before the Falcon Cove students got sick from Redline, energy drinks were discussed at a meeting of the United Way Broward County Commission on Substance Abuse. Members passed around a can of the alcoholic energy drink Sparks, which comes in a silver can and resembles orange soda, but is 6 percent alcohol and caffeinated.
''It looks just like a soda'' despite the alcohol content, said the School Board's Gallagher, a panel member.
The United Way commission recently issued a warning about alcoholic energy drinks, executive director Pat Castillo said.
As the Broward school board works on its energy-drink ban, it is also creating a warning for parents about the short-term effects of energy drinks on children.
But Joe Melita, the school district's chief investigator, says that giving the drinks taboo status could make them more enticing.
'Sometimes, the more you say, `Don't take it,' the more they're going to take it,'' said Melita, who was once Redline CEO Owoc's English teacher at Cooper City High. ``I think the onus falls on the company -- like cigarettes and everything else -- to have it on the label. We'll teach them how to read the label.''
drEamer
u got a tracklist yet Dave???
DaveT
I don't sit there and trainspot the whole set and write down every track name while doing it!...i try to actually enjoy sets! I'll try to write down the name of a track if I like it and can get the name of it, but that's it.
drEamer
okay!!!! one of my friends told me it was proggy....true or not??
DaveT
Sorry, I'm a bit irritable right now after dealing with being a bit sick all day.
Very driving at times and on the edge of progressive, but think it was a bit too powerful to really be called that for the most part.
They started off pretty hard....prett banging.
The played a lot of regular ole trance.
They played a lot of the tracks with very powerful, driving basslines. Again, on the border of prog-trance but I would say that other than the basslines the elements within the tracks were prett damn powerful and not stuff you'd see your more well known prog-trance DJs play. Could be just how I personally see the definition of it though.
They did play some typical prog trance.
Even a little techish stuff.
They had some elements of electro.
I would just say their mix was a bit of it all, and didn't have a focus on one area.
drEamer
thanks!! i didnt take any offense......get well!!!....
so basically im not missing anything by not being there tonight right? LOL...
DaveT
Again, with them, IMO, it's about the party and not sitting there any being anal purel about their set. The bring out a very rowdy crowd (at least up here) and it just makes everything fun and let's you see past flaws in their set that you would normally see in other DJs.
I would not go to B&J with the mindset of how their set should be because the simply aren't consistent enough...I mean, I like a lot of their stuff....but that's not why I like to go to events with them...it's just to have a great time with the rowdy crowd and some good music....and it seems B&J's plays to that, which maybe unintentional....I mean, instead of them worring about progressive, structure...the just play tunes the like and cab flow into each other...at the moment it may seem great...cause it's great party music....but would you pop the mix onto your ipod and listen to it afterwards? Probably not.
BTW, Blank & Jones usually only does two hour sets. I can't think of a time in SF when they played more...but they were liking how their se was going so well and with the room still full the ended up playing an hour longer than I am guessing they were scheduled to.
drEamer
i think they were scheduled to do a 3.5 hour set in chicago tonight.....i have seen them about 5 times before and have always enjoyed their parties....just too close to WMC for me to spend a few hundred bucks....thats the only reason i didnt go
y2yen
few tracks i remembered of their set were:
rank1 vs jochen miller - and then
bnj- nightfly
svd - the bass
kosheen - catch
ronski speed vs rex mundi - perspective space
TheMETHOD
This party was so good, I had a great night, everywhere I went I was running in to friends and people I know, I swear it felt like it was my own personal party! :D Very good vibe from the crowd, people were there to party and seemed like everyone was having a great time.
I am very happy that Blank & Jones played 3 hours, it just shows that some DJ's can really shine when given time to play a long set! I can tell you that the guys were very happy, san francisco is one of their favorite cities to play in because they can feel how much people love their music and they really got a good vibe from everyone that night.
I had a good crowd for my closing set, really appreciate everyone staying around until the end (DaveT: sorry to hear you weren't feeling well) I ended my set at the 4:10, the sound guy had already given me a couple warnings and I know the staff at ruby don't like to stay but I could have went another hour!! :D As some of you know I had like the worse headache hit me right before it was time to play, thanks to those who helped get me some meds, I was feeling better in no time! I was totally inspired by Blank & Jones mix and I think my own set reflected that! I played a new unreleased track by Alex M.O.R.P.H. it was the one with the vocals that said "my spirit" very good feeling on that track, I think it is going to be a huge tune when it gets released later this year! As you may know I have been good friends with Alex for years and am working hard to bring him back to San Francisco!!!
Congrats to Michael Conway for having his track played live by Blank & Jones it sure sounded great on the loud club system! Keep up the good work buddy!
Not sure if any of you caught this video, Blank & Jones posted it on their blog in Jan and I didn't see it until the other day... I guess Paris Hilton likes Blank & Jones, which is interesting but what I liked more was the interview w/ the guys, so check it out!
TheMETHOD
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Originally posted by DaveT
While I only heard a half hour of James' set, he was playin very strong and kept the crowd in to it...his style certainly fits better as a closer than an opener, IMO. Times I've seen him open I thought he was just playin a bit too strong (bein as it was an opening set)...but it's just my personal tastes.
Not sure how many of my opening sets DaveT has seen (I know he missed my opening for serge devant which was great BTW! ;) ), and I don't think he should judge the whole opening set based on 1 or 2 tracks he happens to hear as he arrives right before the headliner starts. Yes, I'm callin you out Dave thats what you usually do! :D
BUT... I won't say I completely disagree about me being a better closer, actually the truth is I take it as a complement! I know what the crowd wants, and I want to give it to them! I've always been a DJ that has played a more edgy and tough style of trance and when I headline or close out a night I can play exactly what I want to play! What I feel the crowd wants to hear!
When I open I do my best to setup the headliner and make them look good. Something I feel I have been very successful at. Just ask Blank & Jones, Serge Devant, Second Sun, Filo & Peri or Alex M.O.R.P.H. to name a few. I am confident they would choose me to open for them again! As a result of opening for all these great DJs my collection has become quite a bit more diverse. I have added a lot of lower BPM tracks, house, progressive, electro, etc. and struggled to adapt my sound to fit without compromising my style. I now really enjoy playing the "mellow stuff" too. I have my own mellow style and have received many complements from friends and even complete strangers on my opening sets!
In my heart I AM and have always been a "peaktime" DJ and look forward to being able to play my heart out every chance I get!
Thanks for the support! :toocool:
DaveT
Actually the last two times I saw you open I was there pretty much the whole time (think last time I saw you open was for your buddy Alex at 1015)....it's been a long time since I see you open...but that's the impression I remember having. I only said I thought you are a bit to powerful. Not too hard, just too powerful. It's not about the quality of the set...talking about the presentation as an opener...I'm lost. I'll just stop now, hehe.
If I haven't seen an opener enough to judge, I flat out don't judge...and if I give an opinion of a piece of an opening set I see, I say how much of it I actually saw in my posts...
