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bioshock headed to PS3 (pg. 2)
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| LionsLair |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
Wait wait wait, stop the presses. Did he actually just say that PS3 has better graphics and that the PC will take ages to catch up?
AHAHAHAHAHAHHA:stongue: :stongue: :stongue:
I know graphics is a pretty moot point for a lot of us these days but my God Lionslair, take your meds. |
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I can show you 10 of the best looking games on the PS3. Feel free to set a bar for me, and show me 10 PC exclusive games that you think are above and beyond PS3 graphics like you claim. Actually Ill extend to all your PC fanboy homies in this thread...join in if you want to help him out, he'll need it. So go ahead show me 10 PC exclusive games that look far above PS3 games, since teh PC graphix is so advanced, right?
So yah, back to reality. It will take PC games another 2-3 years to catch up, and maybe in 4 years start surpassing. Only to be surpassed again by PS4. Graphics are a combination of CPU+GPU...and the Sony/IBM Cell CPU still has not been surpassed by PC CPU's for raw game programming. And even when it does, not many developers are making games that are using future PC CPU architectures. So even when PC surpasses the PS3 in power, that power wont be utilized as effeciently as a closed environment like the PS3. Another advantage the PS3 and its developers have is that the Cell CPU and RSX GPU are married and work together Sasha & Digweed do. So I always laugh when I hear "dude this GPU owns the PS3's GPU". Lets see it put to use then, where is the library of games that actually utilize it. It doesnt exist. Crysis is not a library of games. :tongue2 |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by LionsLair
I can list 10 of the best looking games on the PS3. Feel free to list 10 PC games that look better. Actually Ill extend to all your PC fanboy homies in this thread...join in if you want to help him out, he'll need it. So go ahead show me 10 PC games that look far above PS3 games, since teh PC graphix is so advanced, right?
So yah, back to reality son. It will take PC games another 2-3 years to catch up, and maybe in 4 years start surpassing. Only to be surpassed again by PS4. Graphics are a combination of CPU+GPU...and the Sony/IBM Cell CPU still has not been surpassed by PC CPU's for raw game programming. And even when it does, not many developers are making games that are using future PC CPU architectures. So even when PC surpasses the PS3 in power, that power wont be utilized as effeciently as a closed environment like the PS3. Another advantage the PS3 and its developers have is that the Cell CPU and RSX GPU are married and work together Sasha & Digweed do. So I always laugh when I hear "dude this GPU owns the PS3's GPU". Lets see it put to use then, where is the library of games that actually utilize it. It doesnt exist. Crysis is not a library of games. |
so, explain to me why the PS3 version of call of duty 4 had its graphics turned down if its such a powerhouse? why is haze in a resolution like 1024 x 556 or something similar? why is the PS3's maximum resolution only 1920x1080? PCs have been running higher settings for years.
you know nothing about games, gaming, technology, or well, anything. youre an ignorant PS3 fanboy and your posts here make you look like a complete idiot. and everyone here thinks youre a wit. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
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Free Radical's creative lead, Derek Littlewood has shunned internet hissy-fits over the revelation that Haze on PS3 doesn't run in native 720p.
Haze is the latest of a number of games to run in a lower resolution than the HD standard 720p, for the benefit of a smoother frame rate.
Littlewood confirmed that the final game will run in a resolution of 1024 x 576, essentially shaving 144 horizontal lines off of a typical 1024 x 720 picture, but he dismisses critics' "not true HD" cries.
"We prioritize a nice smooth frame rate over a different res," Littlewood told Ripten.
"Personally, I don't really buy the whole thing. People did the same with Call of Duty, they did the same with Halo, and they say with those games 'It's not running at true HD!'
"I don't care. If the game looks good and it runs smoothly, those are the important things to me. I don't understand why people care whether there's 20 pixels, 50 pixels, or 100 pixels more..."
In case you're not up on this techy babble, developers occasionally reduce the pixels on screen to help free up some processing power for a smoother frame rate - as did FPS big wigs Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4. |
http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/haze/...510152415722017
so, explain to me why your awesome powerhouse can't run graphical settings ive been using for years? and haze also cant do AA.
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| LionsLair |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
so, explain to me why the PS3 version of call of duty 4 had its graphics turned down if its such a powerhouse? why is haze in a resolution like 1024 x 556 or something similar? why is the PS3's maximum resolution only 1920x1080? PCs have been running higher settings for years.
you know nothing about games, gaming, technology, or well, anything. youre an ignorant PS3 fanboy and your posts here make you look like a complete idiot. and everyone here thinks youre a wit. |
HAZE and COD4 are bad examples, im sure you know that. Not exclusive PS3 games either. Haze is published by Ubisoft, a 3rd party publisher, they will port to the PC and most likely the 360 as well. COD4 is multiplat as well, PS3's strengths are hardly used in either game. Sony's First and 2nd party developed games still trounce a majority of the PC library. The safest and only way you can really prove that PC graphics are so uber than PS3 graphics is by visual proof. Lets get it cracking, keep in mind that the PS3 is a $500 machine ;) For PC to reach that resolution you speak of on COD4 at 60FPS, you will have to build yourself at least personally build $1000 machine or you would have to buy a $1500+ commercial PC when the game came out.
Lions Lair 3 PC Alliance 0 |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by LionsLair
Uh...Resolution isnt the only thing that makes graphics good looking. HAZE and COD4 are bad examples, not an exclusive PS3 games. Haze is published by Ubisoft and will be ported to the PC and most likely the 360 as well. COD4 is multiplat as well, PS3's strengths are hardly used in either game. The safest and only way you can really prove that PC graphics are so uber than PS3 graphics is by visual proof. Lets get it cracking, keep in mind that the PS3 is a $500 machine ;) For PC to reach that resolution you speak of on COD4 at 60FPS, you will have to build yourself at least personally build $1000 machine or you would have to buy a $1500+ commercial PC when the game came out.
Lions Lair 2 PC Alliance 0 |
ahhh, i see. the technique of "moving the goalposts". oh, so comparing a game that runs on both the PC and the PS3 isn't a fair comparison?
youre right though, its not all about resolution. its also about texture quality, which is always, and i repeat always, better on a good gaming PC. my graphics card is of much higher quality and will produce better textures, have a much higher sampling rate, run faster etc etc etc.
which is why the cross-console games of call of duty, bioshock, oblivion, assassin's creed etc always look better. that's a simple fact, despite how you try and twist your way out of it. we can run higher resolutions at faster framerates with better textures. idiot.
consoles are awesome, but don't go around spouting nonsense that just isn't true. |
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| LionsLair |
Too funny. Why are you acting like HAZE is a real PS3 exclusive? That aint nowhere near a game that was made solely for the PS3 platform. Just look at the resolution, 567P lol. It was originally slated as a PS3/360/PC game, the engine most likely was started on either the PC or 360. Sony and Ubisoft agreed to bring the game to the PS3 first, and claim it as an exclusive to help its sales. If you wanna make a ban bet on whether or not its a real exclusive, step up. |
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| Zild |
You can't give yourself points. Especially when I doubt anyone agrees with your point of view.
Sure consoles are a good bargain, but they won't touch a custom made $5000 gaming rig. And when we're talking about PC versus consoles we are talking about two completely different markets. So why even bother in the first place?
Yes some people have that much money to blow on a gaming system, so don't be jealous. |
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| bas |
| So what are some PS3 exclusive games then? MGS4? I'm pretty sure any video card for a PC within the past 3-5 years can run whatever resolutions they're running that game at. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by LionsLair
Too funny. Why are you acting like HAZE is a real PS3 exclusive? |
whether or not its an "exclusive" is completely irrelevant, you ing moron. but, it has been developed as a console game, which is why its just been released first on PS3.
| quote: | Originally posted by LionsLair
the engine most likely was started on either the PC or 360. |
all games are written on PCs you wit. the reason they've chosen to go with a lower resolution is the PS3 can't handle the open environments with a high resolution like crysis (which runs like butter on my ninja). the developers admit this. they've chosen frame rate over resolution.
| quote: | Originally posted by LionsLair
If you wanna make a ban bet on whether or not its a real exclusive, step up. |
you're the only one here that cares about "exclusivity". the best way to compare the relative graphics of a machine is test it playing the same game. and thus far, all those games look better on the PC. .
you dont have a single title that comes close to the resolution options, texture quality and high-speed performance that PC's produce. not one.
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| LionsLair |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
ahhh, i see. the technique of "moving the goalposts". oh, so comparing a game that runs on both the PC and the PS3 isn't a fair comparison?
youre right though, its not all about resolution. its also about texture quality, which is always, and i repeat always, better on a good gaming PC. my graphics card is of much higher quality and will produce better textures, have a much higher sampling rate, run faster etc etc etc.
which is why the cross-console games of call of duty, bioshock, oblivion, assassin's creed etc always look better. that's a simple fact, despite how you try and twist your way out of it. we can run higher resolutions at faster framerates with better textures. idiot.
consoles are awesome, but don't go around spouting nonsense that just isn't true. |
Nice job at avoiding the facts. Multiplat(cross-console) games dont dictate the strength of a platform, they are made with the basic overlapping strengths of all 3 platforms, they dont use all of PS3's strengths at all. If they did for example, GTA 4 would have more realistic physics, lighting, animation, minimal to NO load times, and the City could have been 2-3 times bigger, with 4-5 times more NPC and traffic for example. 360 dragged the game down in every area imaginable. You should know that by now.
Now cut the bull, I set a very fair argument to show proof of this so called PC is teh powerful. So lets see 10 games that are exclusive to the PC that are mind blowing compared to PS3 exclusives. You cant, cuz they dont exist.
Lions Lair 5 PC Fanboy Alliance 0
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by LionsLair
Nice job at avoiding the facts. Multiplat(cross-console) games dont dictate the strength of a platform, they are made with the basic overlapping strengths of all 3 platforms, they dont use all of PS3's strengths at all. If they did for example, GTA 4 would have minimal to NO load times, and the City could have been 2-3 times bigger, with 4-5 times more NPC and traffic for example. You should know that by now.
Now cut the bull, I set a very fair argument to show proof of this so called PC is teh powerful. So lets see 10 games that are exclusive to the PC that are mind blowing compared to PS3 exclusives. You cant, cuz they dont exist.
Lions Lair 5 PC Fanboy Alliance 0
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virtually everything you say is wrong. especially regarding GTA. |
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