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| otec |
| quote: | Originally posted by tathi
a friend went to Iran recently, he said its one of the most beautiful countries on earth, the percentage of women registered in university is 60% (40% men) so its not some backwards misoginistic country that the western media likes to portray it as. still, Ameninanjadsdsad is pretty ed.
check out these photos from iran
http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html |
SUPERB !!!
Let me do one parallel here.
Probably you all hear about oil prices going up and the US government thinks one of the reason for this is speculation by huge traders like Morgan Stanely. Basically all they say oil should go up, and everybody starts thinking it will go up and buy it, even though the demand is not rising at all. What we see is a pure speculation.
SO, one (endowing with some power and reputation) needs to repeat his ideas Thousand of times and so that ordinary people start thinking it's the only truth. A typical Western trick.
So the Bush and Co have been advertising "Bad image of Iran" for AGES now. On a daily basis they are saying Iran is crap, it's president is crap and so on.
Ordinary people start believing in this kind of crap. Eventually when Bush calls for a war, it will be supported by 99% of population.
This is just so ridiculous. |
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| otec |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
tell that to the executed rape victims. |
I'm 100% in favoure of executing anyone who raped my children. |
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| otec |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
wow, theres nothing like being beat with a predictability stick
his country has the 4th largest proven oil reserves in the flippin world but they have to import most of their gasoline...and they spend more than a 1/3 of their entire economy subsidizing it to their own people!
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ORLY!? what should they do? Allow greedy corps like BP, Exxon, Total earn profits on Iran's natural reserves?
Why do you think Russia is trying to clamp on every international corporation working in oil/gas/energy sectors? Because the natural reserves belong to Russians and only to them, not to some rich/CEO type who drives ferraries somewhere in Monaco. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by otec
I'm 100% in favoure of killing anyone who rape my children. |
executed rape victims, not executed rapists. |
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| otec |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
executed rape victims, not executed rapists. |
that's actually very bad. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by otec
that's actually very bad. |
of course it is, and it flies-in-the-face of the argument that iran is somehow a modern and advanced society as the forum's anti-americans claim. |
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| otec |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
of course it is, and it flies-in-the-face of the argument that iran is somehow a modern and advanced society as the forum's anti-americans claim. |
It's terrible I agree on that. But that's not a justification of a war that will kill 500k more of innocent people or economic sanctions that make ordinary people existence impossible.
I mean, Americans used to murder Indians and burn black people on crests back in the days. No one went a war on you because of that as I recall, right? |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
of course it is, and it flies-in-the-face of the argument that iran is somehow a modern and advanced society as the forum's anti-americans claim. |
Yep because we're so ing moral here in America. That makes me laugh since the state I live in still believes in executing mentally handicapped people. So ing modern, so ing advanced... :haha: |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
Yep because we're so ing moral here in America. That makes me laugh since the state I live in still believes in executing mentally handicapped people. So ing modern, so ing advanced... :haha: |
the state you live in! For as long as there has been a United States we in the northeast have considered ourselves separate from the rest of the country - still americans, but a different breed. We don't execute people where i live; nor do any states bordering my state execute people. ;)
all joking aside, killing a victim of rape and killing a convicted murder are substantially different; that's blatantly obvious. There is an actually legal and some would argue moral justification for executing a convicted murder. The same can't be said of executing a rape victim. |
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| Lemonad |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
executed rape victims, not executed rapists. |
That's false and you know it, again spreading bull. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lemonad
That's false and you know it, again spreading bull. |
From a non-american source:
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Tehran - Forty-five young women have been murdered in so-called "honour killings" in Iran's majority ethnic Arab southwestern province of Khuzestan in a two-month period this year, press reports said.
An aide to the province's governor said the killings were recorded from the beginning of the Iranian new year in March to May, adding that none of the crimes went through the courts.
"Based on reports we have received, 45 girls under the age of 20 from just one tribe were murdered in 'honour killings' carried out by either their fathers, uncles, brothers or cousins," Pari Mirbeyk said.
"There is no court hearing or anything. They kill the girl and burn her identification card. And since there are no concrete laws to combat this they usually walk free, or otherwise nothing is reported in the first place," she added.
So-called "honour killings" are carried out for a variety of reasons, including a girl's refusal to agree to an arranged marriage, not abiding by the strict Islamic dress code or simply having contacts with males who are not family members.
Pari said another problem was rape within families. She said the governor's office had recently received 18 complaints of rape by girls aged between 12 and 14, but gave no time period for the complaints.
The advisor said the province had also seen a return to pre-Islamic traditions, including the practice of "Hediyeh", literally "gift" - whereby a girl is given as a consolation present to the head of a tribe if his parents die.
Another tradition making a comeback is "Nahveh" - meaning "method" - in which a girl is obliged to marry her paternal cousin.
If she refuses, she is threatened until she accepts. If she is stubborn in her refusal or the cousin rejects her, she has no right to marry for the rest of her life.
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http://www.news24.com/News24/World/...1436398,00.html
EDIT: BBC Article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/5217424.stm
btw, i didn't suggest that iran kills rape victims and allows rapists to walk free. i was correcting otec's misunderstanding of the quote; he thought PKC meant the execution of rapists. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lemonad
That's false and you know it, again spreading bull. |
really? you havent heard of Atefah Sahaaleh or Nazanin Fatehi?
though to be fair, Atefah's crime might just have been sexual relations with a man not her husband. |
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