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Digital mixing vs. competent beat matching (pg. 4)
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| Clovis |
| All the DJs I look up to currently, do not key their music. |
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| Az |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
All the DJs I look up to currently, do not key their music. |
amen to that |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by Az
which to me, although it may not be correct 100% of the time, is still suggesting records for a DJ is it not? |
it's just a proprietary system for the circle of fifths.
it's only suggesting not to sound like ass.
knowing what kind of music you play, it doesn't surprise me that you don't care much for key.
I key every one of my tracks. I tend to like tonal music, and I have a really picky ear. i don't really need to if I am playing something very drummy, but generally I like to play with the chords.
clovis, that's probably because they don't need to, since they're probably playing drummy, dissonant tracks :p |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
clovis, that's probably because they don't need to, since they're probably playing drummy, dissonant tracks :p |
No, thats not it. They just know how to pick good tracks to play going by their instincts and present feeling. Sometimes the mix may be slightly off key but they almost always work.
Three, Damian Lazarus, Seth Troxler, Konrad Black, Magda...etc
None of them key their music, and all of them play music capable of clashing horrendously.
I've been using mixed in key for 6 months, and I have stopped using it. When I play best I pay no attention to keys, and often when tagging with other people I don't have the info on their tracks anyway so it is rendered useless. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
All the DJs I look up to currently, do not key their music. |
Good for them. :stongue:
Now why is that significant again?
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
Good for them. :stongue:
Now why is that significant again?
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Because they are not any worse off than DJs who do, and vice versa.
Mixed In Key markets itself as a way to improve your DJing and "join the pros" which I think is absolutely ing ludicrous. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
Because they are not any worse off than DJs who do, and vice versa.
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That makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever. None. |
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| Clovis |
| Well, that doesn't bother me at all. |
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| RJT |
Seriously, how does being ignorant of a piece of information = having that information?
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It really doesn't make any sense. |
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| nefardec |
yeah i always key by ear and piano, and i'm not perfect so pretty much it's whatever sounds right to me.
the most practical reason I key, though, is that it's a way of filtering a massive collection in my CD case (10 tracks per cd, 200 cds) When I am playing a party also, i can choose something quickly that I know has a better chance of going off well if I am in a jam
when I am just ing around by myself, I don't always mix harmonically, but for prepared mixes and promos I pretty much always do.
when im playing live, if I hear something in my head and then have that 'oh , i need to play this' moment, it doesn't matter what key I'm in, if it needs to go down, it will go down. the intuitive mixes are always the best |
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| Clovis |
| I just don't like the way I DJ when I pay attention to keys. It restricts my way of thinking about tracks too much. I do agree it helps you throw something together in a pinch, but I'd rather practice doing that on instinct. |
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| RJT |
I'd rather have every tool available to me and be able to choose tracks how the moment dictates, if that's by finding keys, I have them - if it's by "Oh , this will sound good", then I have that too.
You just made it sound like keying your tracks was some crutch you had to cast off in order to be a good DJ - and of the three you listed, two are regularly terrible (or at least hit or miss). I don't think they're "as well off" for not having every option open to them. |
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