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"Taste is subjective" (pg. 4)
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RJT
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Originally posted by nefardec
haha, yeah. then again, possibly suffering from the same delusion. :p

there are a ton of people who listen to clubby trance music because they think it makes them different or attractive in a club or sensitive when they are jazzercizing and singing along to the anthem. i happen to know several


Oh yeah, I think that kind of "keeping up appearances" mentality can be mapped onto a lot of different situations.

I just happen to find it particularly annoying with the hipster set because it's just so ing transparent.
PETRAN
quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
haha, yeah. then again, possibly suffering from the same delusion. :p

there are a ton of people who listen to clubby trance music because they think it makes them different or attractive in a club or sensitive when they are jazzercizing and singing along to the anthem. i happen to know several


*hippie hat*
as for me my music selection is pretty much guided by one principle, and that is that I just sense something deeply spiritual or inspired in the music. it's completely subjective i suppose, but i think there are some things that are universally emotional. it's sort of like tapping into a huge cosmic river of collective consciousness. It's why I prefer tracks that sound 'timeless' to tracks that sound 'timely', ie trendy or faddy.



Yeah, and then there are some people who listen to techno and say crackpot stuff, like "its very spiritual, or inspired" and that "techno is universally emotional" and "timeless"...sort of like stuff that "trancers" say...

:nervous: :p
Clovis
I just listen/play whatever I think makes me look cool and compliments my hipster attire.

I mean who willingly plays m_nus tracks? :conf:

I've got a ing headband rep to uphold man.
MrJiveBoJingles
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Originally posted by Clovis
I've got a ing headband rep to uphold man.

Weed headband?
nefardec
quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
Yeah, and then there are some people who listen to techno and say crackpot stuff, like "its very spiritual, or inspired" and that "techno is universally emotional" and "timeless"...sort of like stuff that "trancers" say...

:nervous: :p


well, it's true, there is a lot of trance music that is very inspired/timeless

i mean think of sven vath - ballett fusion or 'a new day' or 'ritual of life'.

there's a ton of music in general. why do you think most religious rituals in human history feature some sort of musical aspect? (and dance as well)

I don't mind 'trance-crackers' per se, just people who do not bother to constantly look deeper, beyond the lasers and smoke of their current illusions


you really like to try to trap people, don't you?
Clovis
quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Weed headband?


:stongue: :stongue:
RJT
quote:
Originally posted by nefardec

I don't mind 'trance-crackers' per se, just people who do not bother to constantly look deeper, beyond the lasers and smoke of their current illusions

you really like to try to trap people, don't you?


The notion of what qualifies as "going deeper" is also subjective :p

What's that quote from Jake from a few years back? Something along the lines of "Not everyone is going to like the music you do. Deal with it."

;)
Clovis
Personally I don't want muppets who think "Sex Instructor" t-shirts are cool anywhere near the music I listen to or the parties I frequent.

Really glad Tiesto sucks them up like a vacuum.
RJT
Oh dear.
MrJiveBoJingles
Maybe they're wearing the "Sex Instructor" shirts ironically? :conf:

PETRAN
quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
well, it's true, there is a lot of trance music that is very inspired/timeless

i mean think of sven vath - ballett fusion or 'a new day' or 'ritual of life'.

there's a ton of music in general. why do you think most religious rituals in human history feature some sort of musical aspect? (and dance as well)

I don't mind 'trance-crackers' per se, just people who do not bother to constantly look deeper, beyond the lasers and smoke of their current illusions





No, i didn't mean that about trance. I just quoted what you said just to show that what you just said could be the result of an illusion as well. I guess that many people listening to epic-trance feel exactly like you, whereas (i guess that) you would categorise many of them under a few simplistic dimensions, leaving yourself as the "elegant experienced perceiver" of true "timeless music", whereas in truth you, could be (are) like them. As you correctly said, knowing these delusions/illusions, makes one to understand that the "timeless musical moment" is bound to ones perception of the (musical) moment within a specific context, and not to any music that exists out there.Now if you want to argue about a music's complexity and structure, you can argue that but this is not the same.


quote:
you really like to try to trap people, don't you?



Its for the sake of conversation :p
MrJiveBoJingles
Listening to the garbage truck unloading the dumpster outside creates a timeless musical moment for me.
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