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"Taste is subjective" (pg. 5)
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Clovis
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Maybe they're wearing the "Sex Instructor" shirts ironically? :conf:



I don't really care either way.
Clovis
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Originally posted by RJT
Oh dear.


Theres some people I just don't like, and I don't have to explain myself, because I'm an . :gsmile:
PETRAN
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Listening to the garbage truck unloading the dumpster outside creates a timeless musical moment for me.


Its like listening to industrial or noise!


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lovely
Clovis
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Originally posted by PETRAN
Its like listening to industrial or noise!



I really enjoy recordings of ambient city/forest/farm/street/subway noise. I like when they're used in tracks too :p
PETRAN
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Originally posted by Clovis
I really enjoy recordings of ambient city/forest/farm/street/subway noise. I like when they're used in tracks too :p



Yeah i like that too.
Clovis
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Originally posted by PETRAN
Yeah i like that too.



And I don't like when those are artificially created. For example the latest Loco Dice album has a track, M Train To Brooklyn that uses what must be the most stereotypical train track sounds ever...dare I say, train track sample with no soul, as completely ing ridiculous as that sounds. :o
nefardec
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Originally posted by PETRAN
No, i didn't mean that about trance. I just quoted what you said just to show that what you just said could be the result of an illusion as well. I guess that many people listening to epic-trance feel exactly like you, whereas (i guess that) you would categorise many of them under a few simplistic dimensions, leaving yourself as the "elegant experienced perceiver" of true "timeless music", whereas in truth you, could be (are) like them. As you correctly said, knowing these delusions/illusions, makes one to understand that the "timeless musical moment" is bound to ones perception of the (musical) moment within a specific context, and not to any music that exists out there.Now if you want to argue about a music's complexity and structure, you can argue that but this is not the same.



that's frankly a load of , man. stop trying to be the forum pschyoanalyst slash screenwriter :haha:


like i said, the only thing i criticize is close-mindedness and not exploring music more. if someone listens to epic trance and epic trance alone, i have a problem with that. if someone only listens to clickno, i think that is also wrong.


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Originally posted by RJT
The notion of what qualifies as "going deeper" is also subjective



hmm, i don't think so. by "deeper" i just mean exposing yourself to more music. that's not really subjective. I didn't mean "deeper" in the miguel migs 'deepah' sense
MrJiveBoJingles
I have a portable recorder that I use for capturing ambient noise. I've never used any ambient / crowd / street noise in a complete track yet, though.

It can actually sound pretty neat if you go inside a crowded building that's pretty "spacious" or reflects sound in some interesting way, then take your recording and put a bunch of reverb on it and / or apply filters to it.
MrJiveBoJingles
Now that I live so close to a large city I actually have a lot more opportunities to record interesting ambient noise, but I haven't been taking advantage of it lately.
PETRAN
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Originally posted by nefardec
that's frankly a load of , man. stop trying to be the forum pschyoanalyst slash screenwriter :haha:


like i said, the only thing i criticize is close-mindedness and not exploring music more. if someone listens to epic trance and epic trance alone, i have a problem with that.






Would you have a problem with a (hypothetical) person telling you that he/she MOSTLY listens to Techno (starting giving names like Maurizio, Taho, Basic Channel, Luomo, Carl Craig and others...), in the same way you would have a problem with another person informing you that he/she MOSTLY listens to Epic Trance (starting saying names like Above and Beyond, Push, Paul Van Dyk, Airwave, Ayla and stuff)? Yeah...Right...

:p


So i'm the forum's psycho-analyst...there you categorised me under one dimension, can i also give you a name...ehmmm the "forum's techno-priest"? (although cyber-cleric and dub-bishop also sound cool).

SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by nefardec
well, it's true, there is a lot of trance music that is very inspired/timeless

i mean think of... sven vath - 'ritual of life'.


I just can't listen to that track anymore. It's just a nasty piece of cultural elitism to me- a bunch of cod "ethnic" samples slapped together to create faux spirituality. It sounds too false for me to think of it as inspired or timeless, and it certainly has no soul.
nefardec
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Originally posted by PETRAN
Would you have a problem with a (hypothetical) person telling you that he/she MOSTLY listens to Techno (starting giving names like Maurizio, Taho, Basic Channel, Luomo, Carl Craig and others...), in the same way you would have a problem with another person informing you that he/she MOSTLY listens to Epic Trance (starting saying names like Above and Beyond, Push, Paul Van Dyk, Airwave, Ayla and stuff)? Yeah...Right...

:p


So i'm the forum's psycho-analyst...there you categorised me under one dimension, can i also give you a name...ehmmm the "forum's techno-priest"? (although cyber-cleric and dub-bishop also sound cool).



wow, you're spicy today

I think there is much more variety of composition and sound in 'techno', a huge umbrella term, than in 'epic trance', so it's apples and oranges here.



i think derrick may is the techno priest, cyber cleric would be thomas melchior and baby ford, and dub bishop would be moritz von oswald


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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I just can't listen to that track anymore. It's just a nasty piece of cultural elitism to me- a bunch of cod "ethnic" samples slapped together to create faux spirituality. It sounds too false for me to think of it as inspired or timeless, and it certainly has no soul.


that's possibly the most blatantly subjective thing in the thread - was it meant as irony? anyways you're right, it's not nearly on the level of the other two i posted

plastikman - ethnic must be the track you are thinking of
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