Originally posted by Q5echo
if that gets your goat, there's plenty more where that came from. >LINK<
It's funny that you guys are quoting things from February 07 like it was yesterday with regards to "I've seen no plan on Iraq." It was only a year and a half ago.
I also find it funny that you guys think that VPs should be complete mirrors of the President. Maybe if we'd had a VP that questioned the President privately on some issues and offered different perspectives, we wouldn't be experiencing a lot of the problems that we're going through.
Q5echo
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Originally posted by jerZ07002
Is that new?
The McCain camp came out with it 6 hours after Obama announced
Q5echo
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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
It's funny that you guys are quoting things from February 07 like it was yesterday with regards to "I've seen no plan on Iraq." It was only a year and a half ago.
right, because words mean nothing when a "D" is in front of their name.
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I also find it funny that you guys think that VPs should be complete mirrors of the President. Maybe if we'd had a VP that questioned the President privately on some issues and offered different perspectives, we wouldn't be experiencing a lot of the problems that we're going through.
funny, at one time you thought Bush was Cheney's puppet. how long ago was that smart guy?
you have no idea what i think a VP should be.
Q5echo
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San Diego Union-Tribune blogger Chris Reed recalls Biden's 1988 response in Claremont, New Hampshire to a question about his law school record from a man identified only as ''Frank.'' Biden looked at his questioner and said: ''I think I have a much higher I.Q. than you do.''
Biden of course couldn't leave it at that. He is not known for his concision or care with the facts. He added that he ''went to law school on a full academic scholarship — the only one in my class to have a full academic scholarship.'' He also said that he ''ended up in the top half'' of his class and won a prize in an international moot court competition. Biden still wasn't done. In college, Biden said, he was ''the outstanding student in the political science department'' and ''graduated with three degrees from college.''
Reed then turns to Biden's subsequent statement on this exchange. At Syracuse College of Law, Biden graduated 76th in a class of 85. He acknowledged: ''I did not graduate in the top half of my class at law school and my recollection of this was inacurate.'' Just a slip of memory.
As for receiving three degrees, Biden conceded: ''I graduated from the University of Delaware with a double major in history and political science. My reference to degrees at the Claremont event was intended to refer to these majors — I said 'three' and should have said 'two.''' His arithmetic was off.
As for his undergraduate preeminence in the political science department — well, that was somebody else. But one of his professors thought he fit the bill. ''With regard to my being the outstanding student in the political science department,'' the statement went on. ''My name was put up for that award by David Ingersoll, who is still at the University of Delaware.'' Professor Ingersoll had it right!
As for his claim that he went to school on full academic scholarship: ''My recollection is — and I'd have to confirm this — but I don't recall paying any money to go to law school.'' Reed cites a Newsweek report that Biden had gone to Syracuse ''on half scholarship based on financial need.''
this man has been in Washington for 35 years. he is an "insider" of insiders.
The17sss
I think it's hilarious that for months the left has been DaVinci Codebreaking every John McCain advertisement for so-called "coded racism." And they were not praising such "coded racism" as "refreshing" or charming in the least like they are about Biden's off the cuff remarks.
Q5echo
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VP choice Biden unpopular in Iraq for autonomy plan Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:00pm EDT
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Senator Joe Biden may be one of the only U.S. politicians that can get Iraq's feuding Sunni, Shi'ite and Kurdish politicians to agree. But not in a good way.
Across racial and religious boundaries, Iraqi politicians on Saturday bemoaned Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama's choice of running mate, known in Iraq as the author of a 2006 plan to divide the country into ethnic and sectarian enclaves.
"This choice of Biden is disappointing, because he is the creator of the idea of dividing Iraq," Salih al-Mutlaq, head of National Dialogue, one of the main Sunni Arab blocs in parliament, told Reuters.
"We rejected his proposal when he announced it, and we still reject it. Dividing the communities and land in such a way would only lead to new fighting between people over resources and borders. Iraq cannot survive unless it is unified, and dividing it would keep the problems alive for a long time."
Delaware senator Biden unveiled his plan to divide Iraq into a federation of autonomous Sunni, Shi'ite and Kurdish zones at a time when sectarian killing in Iraq was out of control and getting worse.
"The idea, as in Bosnia, is to maintain a united Iraq by decentralizing it, giving each ethno-religious group -- Kurd, Sunni Arab and Shiite Arab -- room to run its own affairs," he proposed in a May 2006 piece he co-wrote in the New York Times.
"The Kurdish, Sunni and Shiite regions would each be responsible for their own domestic laws, administration and internal security. The central government would control border defense, foreign affairs and oil revenues," Biden said.
At the time, many Iraqi politicians hinted at a need for communities to be divided. Since then, however, violence has ebbed and nearly all mainstream politicians speak out against such ideas.
"The original 'Biden plan' seems less relevant in Iraq today than at any point," said Reidar Visser, a Norwegian academic and editor of the Iraq-focused website historiae.org. "The trend in parliament is clearly in a more national direction, with political parties coming together across sectarian divides.
"In other words, there is a very strong Iraqi mobilization against precisely the core elements of the Biden plan, and it would be extremely unwise of the Democratic Party to make Biden's ideas the centerpiece of their Iraq strategy," he added.
Today, even Kurds who already have their own autonomous enclave in northern Iraq say they oppose the "Biden plan".
"We don't support establishing federal regions on a sectarian basis. For example our region is not ethnic, it contains Kurds and non-Kurds. The regions should be established on a geographic basis," said Kurdish lawmaker Mahmoud Othman.
Ezzet al-Shabender, a member of parliament from the secularist Iraqi List of former prime minister Ayad Allawi, actually credited the broad-based disgust triggered by Biden's proposal for helping Iraqi politicians bury their differences.
"His project was the reason behind the unity of many political blocs that once differed in viewpoints," he said, comparing it to the Balfour Declaration, a 1917 British note that backed the creation of Israel and is regarded across the Arab world as the ultimate colonial injustice.
"Such a person, if he would assume the vice-presidency post, would not serve to improve Iraq-USA relations."
Originally posted by Q5echo
this man has been in Washington for 35 years. he is an "insider" of insiders.
He sounds like Mitt Romney there...
Q5echo
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Originally posted by Clovis
He sounds like Mitt Romney there...
yeah, Romney's never been in Washington:haha:
youre thinking of someone else
josh4
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Originally posted by Q5echo
i'd like to follow up that video with this video introducing Slo-Joe Biden as "the next President...doh!...the next Vice President of the United States"
great way to kick off your campaign Senator.
i've been noticing that ever since the announcement. especially the campaign highlighting the fact 'biden is ready to be president'. its like they're taking a page from the republican play book - getting people to associate the presidency with biden to take heat off obama. similar to when fox news "fumbles" obama and calls him osama. its certainly not like obama to make mistakes in speeches or mixup words
Clovis
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Originally posted by Q5echo
yeah, Romney's never been in Washington:haha:
you realize not only did he vote for war, he was also 100% wrong in his idea of "separating of parties" and opposing the surge to stop sectarian violence and McCain was 100% right.
