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what do y like/dislike about minimal techno
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| euphoria |
| Not enough energy, no constant melody, or flow. To me is just sounds pretty random like someone hit a bunch of keys and called it a track. Sorry guys... I know a lot of u like it. I really tried to give it a chance but it's just not for me. |
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| BiG MiKE |
| That's the people's Trance. |
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| Frequency Frank |
I like/love minimal that is done right. Yes, there's some real crap out there, but that's true of any genre. What I love about it is that, again, when done properly, the tracks really "breathe" nicely. There isn't this need to fill every last ounce of the spectrum with sound.Also, while a lot of people have started making really generic (everyone borrows that one woodblock sorta sound), there tends to be a more original use of sounds.
I think the problem is there are a LOT of bad minimal DJ's out there. The tracks do tend to have a somewhat similar design, but it's still very possible to build a proper set. A good minimal-ish set that I recently heard was the pan-pot set on the minitek podcast. Really, really solid. Check it out:
http://www.minitekfestival.com/7weeks.html |
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| chupa169 |
I like the attention to production detail, tweaked out FX, chug along.
I dislike no melody/real music, repetitiveness, sounding the same. |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by Frequency Frank
I like/love minimal that is done right. Yes, there's some real crap out there, but that's true of any genre. What I love about it is that, again, when done properly, the tracks really "breathe" nicely. There isn't this need to fill every last ounce of the spectrum with sound.Also, while a lot of people have started making really generic (everyone borrows that one woodblock sorta sound), there tends to be a more original use of sounds.
I think the problem is there are a LOT of bad minimal DJ's out there. The tracks do tend to have a somewhat similar design, but it's still very possible to build a proper set. A good minimal-ish set that I recently heard was the pan-pot set on the minitek podcast. Really, really solid. Check it out:
http://www.minitekfestival.com/7weeks.html |
I'm a huge fan of Pan-Pot but I don't see how they are considered minimal. More just straight up Techno. And yes I have this mix and consider it to be mediocre to a lot of their other mixes I have.
Listening to this again and it starts off pure Techno and stays that way. But then again I do realize that most people call everything minimal these days from tech house to straight up techno it all seems to be labeled as minimal these days. |
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| Frequency Frank |
| quote: | Originally posted by chupa169
...real music... |
cmon now, you're better than that :cool:
A lot of experimental jazz was considered "not real music" for a long time. Look at someone like Thelonius Monk. His piano style is very, very syncopated/unique style. A lot of people hate his style because it's not mainstream jazz. To others, he's a visionary. |
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| Frequency Frank |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
I'm a huge fan of Pan-Pot but I don't see how they are considered minimal. More just straight up Techno. And yes I have this mix and consider it to be mediocre to a lot of their other mixes I have.
Listening to this again and it starts off pure Techno and stays that way. But then again I do realize that most people call everything minimal these days from tech house to straight up techno it all seems to be labeled as minimal these days. |
Fair enough, I suppose it is more just techno than anything else. Who do you consider true minimal then? I'd throw Skoozbot out there as one, Gaiser, some of Alexi Delano's stuff, Ambivalent, but I've never heard a set of these guys (only tracks). |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by Frequency Frank
Fair enough, I suppose it is more just techno than anything else. Who do you consider true minimal then? I'd throw Skoozbot out there as one, Gaiser, some of Alexi Delano's stuff, Ambivalent, but I've never heard a set of these guys (only tracks). |
It is tough to pigeonhole those artists into a single subgenre as they play anything from Tech-House to Detroit Techno. I really don't know many artists that produce or DJ only minimal techno. A Half Hawaii LivePA Clovis posted last month comes to mind so I'll see if I can dig up the thread. |
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| Frequency Frank |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
It is tough to pigeonhole those artists into a single subgenre as they play anything from Tech-House to Detroit Techno. I really don't know many artists that produce or DJ only minimal techno. A Half Hawaii LivePA Clovis posted last month comes to mind so I'll see if I can dig up the thread. |
Very true. On the other end of the spectrum, I still think some people confuse minimal with leftfield. To me, minimal needs to keep a strong 4/4 beat in it. |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by Frequency Frank
Very true. On the other end of the spectrum, I still think some people confuse minimal with leftfield. To me, minimal needs to keep a strong 4/4 beat in it. |
Oh for sure. Minimal is really just a form of Techno so it better keep a 4/4 beat except for breakdown, atmospheric passages, etc...
Here is that thread I was talking about.
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| chupa169 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Frequency Frank
cmon now, you're better than that :cool:
A lot of experimental jazz was considered "not real music" for a long time. Look at someone like Thelonius Monk. His piano style is very, very syncopated/unique style. A lot of people hate his style because it's not mainstream jazz. To others, he's a visionary. |
I dont mean not real music in a bad way.
By not real music i mean no melody, not being musical (ie no cords, progression, sound interaction).
Any organization of sounds can be considered music, minimal typically does not have melody which I relate to emotion and thus what I dont not like about it.
The term "music" and what it actually is is completely subjective to being with. Your example makes a good point but stretches beyond what my comment is actually meant to imply. |
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