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Why does Ontario keep voting Liberal? (pg. 3)
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| exstasie |
| quote: | Originally posted by djmanu
I'm Socially Liberal and Economically Conservative, which party do I have to choose ? :rolleyes: |
...the lesser of the two evils...?
(I'm not sure who that is at this point)
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| djmanu |
| quote: | Originally posted by exstasie
...the lesser of the two evils...?
(I'm not sure who that is at this point)
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I think that Canada already did its social reforms (Gay rights, abortion, ...), now we need lower taxes and smaller government! |
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| exstasie |
| quote: | Originally posted by djmanu
I think that Canada already did its social reforms (Gay rights, abortion, ...), now we need lower taxes and smaller government! |
Lower taxes FTW!!
just de-regulate everything and privatize the entire country...
Let the hand to the work!
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by djmanu
now we need lower taxes |
I'm hoping for a Liberal win for exactly this reason. Green shift equals a $1200 reduction in my income tax. The average Canadian will pay an additional $250/yr in carbon tax and/or higher costs. That means $950 more in my pocket. Actually, it will probably be less in carbon costs for me since I don't pay for gas and I just retrofitted my home for maximum gas and electric efficiency.
Interestingly... $1200 is also approximately what I save per year from the GST cuts... of course that was tempered by a $400 a year increase in my income tax (remember, they cancelled an income tax cut to fund the GST cut).
I'll be interested to see what the conservatives have to say on taxes, as so far all they're saying is what their record is... which is all fine and good except that we're voting on the next government, not the last. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I'm hoping for a Liberal win for exactly this reason. Green shift equals a $1200 reduction in my income tax. The average Canadian will pay an additional $250/yr in carbon tax and/or higher costs. That means $950 more in my pocket. Actually, it will probably be less in carbon costs for me since I don't pay for gas and I just retrofitted my home for maximum gas and electric efficiency.
Interestingly... $1200 is also approximately what I save per year from the GST cuts... of course that was tempered by a $400 a year increase in my income tax (remember, they cancelled an income tax cut to fund the GST cut).
I'll be interested to see what the conservatives have to say on taxes, as so far all they're saying is what their record is... which is all fine and good except that we're voting on the next government, not the last. |
I calculated my return on the Green Shift and it equals $595.00 for the year.
If you go on the liberal website you can calculate the amount you will save with their new green shift plan. |
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| Orko |
| Will the cost of a carbon tax be rolled into every product we buy, and there fore increase living costs? How will it affect the supply chain and manufacturers/retailers? |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orko
Will the cost of a carbon tax be rolled into every product we buy, and there fore increase living costs? How will it affect the supply chain and manufacturers/retailers? |
My understanding is the carbon tax is applied at the wholesale level...so most likely there will be an increase in the cost of some products. Gasoline will not be taxed further at the pump as it is already taxed.
If you want to read more about the Green Shift Plan then check out
This |
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| Nick Cenik |
| I shutter at the thought of a Conservative majority--VERY scary :nervous: |
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| Abercrombie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
and that certainly isnt tim jones LOL
The only worse candidate could be phyllis "the disaster" morris |
Yup...
If Belinda was to run, she would have my vote... but Tim Jones??? There is NO WAY I am voting Liberal this year. The party was retarded to let him be the one to represent the party in my region. If they wanted him to represent the Liberals federally, they should have put him in another riding where he isn't recognized as a failure by the people.
From my impression he is a closert Conservative too. He was REALLY supportive of Belinda when she ran as a Conservative, raising her hand in victory days before the election (I personally saw this at the longest street sale just before the election). But then again... as benefit of the doubt...like I said... Aurorans seem to vote for the person rather than the party.
So as far where I stand in Aurora... to date, I know who I'm NOT going to vote for... now I have to find out who I will.... |
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| djeso |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Why? why do we elect Liberal time and time again? And for that matter, why do we re-elect the same city councillors along with mayor miller? I am convinced that Ontario and especially Toronto is suffering from battered voters' syndrome. We just keep coming back for more punches!
BTW i predict a conservative majority with or without Soviet Ontaristan :) |
Because they like to pay more taxes :) |
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| djeso |
| quote: | Originally posted by djmanu
I think that Canada already did its social reforms (Gay rights, abortion, ...), now we need lower taxes and smaller government! |
Lower Taxes and smaller government :happy2: definitely agree |
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| Dj Smitty20 |
| quote: | Originally posted by exstasie
Lower taxes FTW!!
just de-regulate everything and privatize the entire country...
Let the hand to the work!
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dude Bush has been doing that to the United States since he took office and look at the state they're in right now.
Only last week did he essentially NATIONALISE the mortgage industry by having the federal government take over two major mortgage companies.
Wait, isn't that a Marxist tactic?:rolleyes: |
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