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Delobbo dominating RA interview (pg. 4)
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| delobbo |
personally I don't have a 'holier than thou' attitude regarding my opinion - I will call it an opinion because I do think it's subjective. But for me, yes, I do prefer to hear vinyl being played, I do prefer that sound. It's clear almost nobody plays it anymore.
And, this isn't really about what's written in a book. I mean, if it's written somewhere, that digital music is "better" because of reasons a, b, c, and d, that doesn't really explain anything, in regard to what we're discussing here.
I am an admitted old skooler. But it should be obvious I have no "problem" with the new skool either, being an avid user of (many) new technologies. :) |
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| Blake_Jarrell |
| quote: | Originally posted by delobbo
personally I don't have a 'holier than thou' attitude regarding my opinion - I will call it an opinion because I do think it's subjective. But for me, yes, I do prefer to hear vinyl being played, I do prefer that sound. It's clear almost nobody plays it anymore.
And, this isn't really about what's written in a book. I mean, if it's written somewhere, that digital music is "better" because of reasons a, b, c, and d, that doesn't really explain anything, in regard to what we're discussing here.
I am an admitted old skooler. But it should be obvious I have no "problem" with the new skool either, being an avid user of (many) new technologies. :) |
youre just repeating what i said in a different way
technically digital is cleaner and more precise to the original recording...vinyl is "colored" by static and subtle imperfections, and also most importantly wear and tear. there is no denying that, and thats what i was trying to explain, the FACTS of the situation which usually go out the door on messageboards. she did say that digital sounded FLAT, which is, techincally, impossible. so in response: yes this is really about whats written in a book.
but of course, you are right, you can't define personal preference in a textbook, and i made it clear that i respect peoples personal preference. lets just make sure that were keeping these two ideas separate in this argument. |
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| RJT |
Just to clarify, I was really only referring to potential differences in how analog vs. digital sources would sound on most club systems.
For the most part Blake and Ruben have covered the rest. :) |
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| m. sylvia |
Here's something I read when researching ear fatigue:
An exceptionally comprehensive article over at Austin360 explains why modern records (music mastered in the last ten years) can be hard to listen to even if you like the music. It has to do with physical aural fatigue. It is essentially a story of over-compression on modern music studio masters, which is being done in a more and more extreme way to give music more “perceived loudness”.
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…Here’s the punch line: The brain can’t process sounds that lack a dynamic range for very long. It’s an almost subconscious response. This is what Montrone was talking about when he mentioned the TV test tone.
“It’s ear fatigue,” Tubbs says, “After three songs you take it off. There’s no play to give your ears even a few milliseconds of depth and rest.”
Alan Bean is a recording/mastering engineer in Harrison, Maine. He’s a former professional musician and a doctor of occupational medicine.
“It stinks that this has happened,” he says. “Our brains just can’t handle hearing high average levels of anything very long, whereas we can stand very loud passages, as long as it is not constant. It’s the lack of soft that fatigues the human ear.”
This is part of the reason that some people are really fanatical about vinyl. “It’s not necessarily that vinyl sounds ‘better,’ ” Bean says. “It’s that it’s impossible for vinyl to be fatiguing.”
Got this from healthbolt.net. |
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| delobbo |
| thanks for bringing that up sylz - that is definitely a good part of it. i have more to say, need to run away for a bit.. . |
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| Blake_Jarrell |
| quote: | Originally posted by m. sylvia
This is part of the reason that some people are really fanatical about vinyl. “It’s not necessarily that vinyl sounds ‘better,’ ” Bean says. “It’s that it’s impossible for vinyl to be fatiguing.”
Got this from healthbolt.net. |
in this instance, they mean classic vinyl records, like dark side of the moon, which were mastered with different compression ratios, not modern dance music vinyl, which is mastered with the same compression ratios as digital files. |
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| m. sylvia |
| quote: | Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell
in this instance, they mean classic vinyl records, like dark side of the moon, which were mastered with different compression ratios, not modern dance music vinyl, which is mastered with the same compression ratios as digital files. |
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| neutron liar |
somewhat related,
has anyone had a "used" vinyl that caused the song to mess up completely? or does that not happen with vinyl?
I mean, you get a scratch on your cd, and well, your ed on that song, and the crowd knows it. |
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| delobbo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell
in this instance, they mean classic vinyl records, like dark side of the moon, which were mastered with different compression ratios, not modern dance music vinyl, which is mastered with the same compression ratios as digital files. |
no this also applies to dance records made before the dawn of the "to the max" era. I mean, tracks where, when you import them into a digital editor, you can actually SEE a waveform at full-view, rather than one gigantic BLOCK. lol |
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| Blake_Jarrell |
| quote: | Originally posted by delobbo
no this also applies to dance records made before the dawn of the "to the max" era. I mean, tracks where, when you import them into a digital editor, you can actually SEE a waveform at full-view, rather than one gigantic BLOCK. lol |
there were approx 10 records made in that era
big compression started in 92 with the first jungle records |
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| delobbo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell
there were approx 10 records made in that era
big compression started in 92 with the first jungle records |
I should clarify. I am talking about 'electronic' records in general, not limited to dance records.
but, this includes tracks such as 'enjoy the silence', which you could call a dance record. and a TON of others. |
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