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CAN we STOP the AMERICAN BASHING !!!!!!!!!! (pg. 8)
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| Yoepus |
I'm sorry.. I am just lurking through the start of the thread reading every post till I get to the end (you know how it is). When I came upon this one. I just had to reply because it was so funny
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Originally posted by elektrikal
imo i think we should just ditch isreal cuz staying there will just cause more (perhaps catastrophic) problems. its probably a one sided opinion but oh well. |
then look what tu_face (a Brit) said:
| quote: | Originally posted by tu_face
fact is they shouldnt be there in the first place...
but thats a totally different argument :) |
LOL!!! u really kill me dud :crazy: :gsmile: :gsmile: :gsmile:
no seriously, this is funny.. because you are the guys who started the whole mess in the first place. Learn your history dud |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by tu_face
the 'retaliation' for the sept 11 attacks has done nothing but spark off in india and pakistan for instance. |
dont blame that on us.....the probelems between those 2 has beed goign on for some time... |
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| Renegade |
| quote: | | no seriously, this is funny.. because you are the guys who started the whole mess in the first place. Learn your history dud |
You're blaming tu_face for the creation of Isreal then? Seeing how he was back there in 1948 trying so hard to create an independant nation for despondent Jews and all? |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Stiffmaster
thats wrong, japanese people are working longer, and the only have 2 weeks vacations in one year. and its a shame for them to take this 2 weeks vacation. but the americans work more than germans thats right :D. only my father is working from 8 to 8, normally they work here from 8 or 9 to 4 or 5 and on friday only to 2. and on saturdays everybodys at home. thats one reason why my country becomes more and more poor. |
People in EVERY country on EVERY land work hard...whether you are American, German or Dutch...everyone works for what they want |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by tu_face
example: the US has loose gun laws which allow any citizen over the age of whatever to own a gun with a license. they have 9846709673% more gun related crimes and violent deaths a year than the UK which has very very strict gun laws. Our police do not generally walk around with guns (they do in some situations).. they do not have the need to. police with guns = criminals with guns.
blah blah im goin sideways here lol |
NOT SIDEWAYS at all...i agree witrh you here |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR
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Tiesto14, why do you feel so victimised, theres all sorts of abusing crap being flung around these boards, just because once in a while it has something to do with america you thinks it becomes more important? well there your answer why people mock you in the first place!
and another thing, im sure some people may have lost love ones in sept 11th, but lets get one thing straight, you all (or most) seem to of acted like your country has been carpet bombed with nukes! millions of people die from starvation etc in other countries but because it doesnt affect your country i doubt you even notice! people joke about other things like ceratin causes of death, i dunno take aids or scucide for example for example, you may joke baout them but how do you not know TAs have lost love ones to that? you can have one set of rules for urself and another set for everyone else! |
You are right other countries do go through terribel things...and i have noticed....
but NOONE would ever conceive of making fun of a a country who has starving children...why..well because its low-class and just cruel...
BUT you on the other hand went out fo your way to mock the attacks...i am sorry but i take great offense to that because i PERSONALLY have lost loved ones due to those attacks....and you continue to make light of it...you are very rude and obnoxious...you have zero respect for me or anyone who was affected by those attacks and all the lost lives on that day... |
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
You're blaming tu_face for the creation of Isreal then? Seeing how he was back there in 1948 trying so hard to create an independant nation for despondent Jews and all? |
Yes, as in "you are the guys" being brits and you not being able to take a joke. Seesh.. you brits get all touchy when the world critize you about your imperial blunders.
Yoepus
sidenote; I did enjoy though your essay and agree with it, and the trancegiant commentary on it.
I love that jacket you're wearing. It's obvious you shop at only the finest garage sales. |
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| tranceaholic |
well just woke up and gone through the posts..i got some stuff to say :)
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
You're blaming tu_face for the creation of Isreal then? Seeing how he was back there in 1948 trying so hard to create an independant nation for despondent Jews and all? |
dude if u know ur history..u will know that the brits promised the land to both the muslims and the jews to help it in world war I and so when they did..they bith moved to the land at the same time and the problems started..Second i dont get the bashing by the brits..is it just me or arent the brits the first people that expressed their condolences to the us after sept11 and were the first to attack afghanistan along with the us...is it just suckin up to the big dogg?
is it just double standard?
i am an egyptian that lives in the U.S...making jokes about sept 11 is no funny buisness...dont give me the bull about millions of people die in third world countries so whats the big deal about sept 11..well first of all unless u have been to those countries or are from them then shut up cause u dont know what its like to go to a cafe and find a 5yr old kid takin ur order at 2 am...if one soul gets killed then its not a laughing matter so how about 6 thousand that didnt see it coming..it is unacceptable to make fun of this situation...now u wanna make fun of the us goverment no harm is done in that..as u rnt hurting anyone's feelings..infact i will join u in the laughs..i dont understand the bond between the us israel..whats the deal? if they werent one sided this problem would have ended but they keep backing up israel and thats why arabs are fueled with hatred to the us..israel has been such a pain to all the arabs sicne its creation..more than 6000 people died for sure because of israel..
The attack on afghanistan was plain stupid..i mean terrorism was around for ages in afghanistan..if ben laden was hiding in another country no one would have given a about afghanistan..
Conclusion:America is a great country and not lazy at all..all u people are using american made microsft windows to bash the usa lol..
It is a great country that contributed alot economic wise but makes stupid ass descisions political wise..so wanna bash go ahead bash those political descisions but not everything about america needs to be bashed..Question? Do europeans have a double standard? |
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| Yoepus |
A few argument points I don't understand you euros making.
Such as the argument of:
1) Sept 11th is not important because other people in the world are suffering too. Like nature is killing off millions of people in africa and stuff, so you should be nuking nature now too.
2) We're not laughing at you, were laughing with you.
well my reply;
1: If everyone in the world would take care of their own interest we would be much better off. If the USA would go to work on terrorist, and the Africans on their aids, and the Europeans on the pro-Arab support, and Austrilia on devoting peacekeepers in East Timor and Fiji, then the world would be much better.
However you don't. Europe goes to the US and asks them to be pro-Arab, Africa comes to the US and ask them to cure Aids, Austrilia comes to the US to ask them for peacekeepers.
I mean, for gods sake people, you are saying the USA is not all that, but then your government go on their hands and knees and beg the USA to do something about something. What, are you guys so helpess and powerless to solve problems on your own?
I mean look at Kyoto. You wanted the USA to sign the protocol (which I don't think was bad, the bad part was not offering another plan). Ok so the USA didn't sign it. Why do you guys need the USA? Go organize the protocol and sign it yourselfs! Why didn't you? Because your governments discovered the protocol is not all that and the Americans were right.. it was a pretty dumb plan, we need better.
The problem in this world is accountability. Just like Sept 11th is placed on the heads of responsability of the US government on how they 'greedly' tried to have a steady supply of oil (which may I say Arab oil greatly benifit your Euros much more it did then the gass-guzzling yanks). When in fact it should have been placed on the heads of state of the dictatorships of Arabia. Why are you Euros so blind to this type of thing? You guys had just as much a part in Arabia, even more influence and backstabbing and double playing, then the Americans did.. but where you bombed? No. America is an easy scapegoat, just like Israel. - If we blame both of these countries all the problems will be solved.
Well it doesn't work like that. I understand there is a lot of valid critism. But why do you go on saying Bush is dumb in "everything" he does because he does dumb things in one field or two. Sure not being an environmentalist is dumb. And sure he might be a greedy capatilist pig, but what the hell is wrong with the war effort?? If something is wrong it seems to me that he is to weak and not strong enough.
But the Euros go on and on about how bad the war is because Bush is president.. ?? huh??
But the USA is doing its thing and helping the rest of the world for it, its even getting back at nature for all the wrongs it is doing to people in Africa and stuff. Just wait a few years and nature should be gone! Then you'll thank the Americans, won't you?
2: ya right, this is what the Palestinians said, after they were celebrating in the streets for Sept 11th.
Yoepus
You're so fat, when cars swerve to avoid you in the street they run out of petrol.
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| Renegade |
How did you know I was English? Or did you just guess?
Well.... kinda. My parents are English, all my relatives are English and I used to live and go to school there, but I still consider myself Australian. So, erm yeah. Glad we could get that sorted out then. :rolleyes:
And yeah, I was just -stirring with my last post. I tend to do things like that. :rolleyes: |
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| tranceaholic |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
BUT you on the other hand went out fo your way to mock the attacks...i am sorry but i take great offense to that because i PERSONALLY have lost loved ones due to those attacks....and you continue to make light of it...you are very rude and obnoxious...you have zero respect for me or anyone who was affected by those attacks and all the lost lives on that day... |
its alright tiesto14..i see alot of people making intelligent arguments but Dumonde Trancer's arguments are made of bull..he thinks he is funny and he is usually is in other threads..but in this one he is just sittin around intelligent people not knowing anything to say so just laughing and trying to be funny to contribute. thats a shame though..oh wait he will come and tell u millions die in other countries i forget that line thet he memorized as his argument oh well..he probably never helped out in charities or never been to a third world country..so make jokes dumonde if thats ur way of contributuion in an intelligent conversation. |
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
How did you know I was English? Or did you just guess? |
Well I sort of caught on to it from a few of your other posts.. that and getting all touchy about England. That or it was a good guess.. I can't remember.
| quote: | | And yeah, I was just -stirring with my last post. I tend to do things like that. :rolleyes: |
Ya that only works with me when I actually want to stir some . Which understandably, is not all that often.
Yoepus
Hold still, I'm trying to imagine you with a personality. |
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