I for one can't stand Obama. Whether ASOT is being serious or not, Obama should not be president. I'd be surprised if anyone on here supported McCain, but I proudly do.
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Originally posted by DiscoStew
That domain name about sums up your ignorance.
The site actually seems pretty informative. You are probably an Obama supporter though, so of course he is automatically ignorant for posting a link to it.
DiscoStew
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Originally posted by PVDfan07
I for one can't stand Obama. Whether ASOT is being serious or not, Obama should not be president. I'd be surprised if anyone on here supported McCain, but I proudly do.
The site actually seems pretty informative. You are probably an Obama supporter though, so of course he is automatically ignorant for posting a link to it.
Regardless of one's individual beliefs, it is fair to say that any web site that leads with a headline that reads "Obama = Taxes & Death" is putting out false information. The only thing worse than ignorance is misinformation.
Both candidates have a lot to offer to our nation. I don't care which way you vote; I would just ask that you make an intelligent decision. Use nonpartisan resources for your research like NPR or www.factcheck.org rather than the trash being spewed out of the mouth of Sean Hannity or nohussein.org.
After all, when you have a democratic process with voters who are not educated on the subject matter, you end up with something like the DJ Mag poll.
iammesol
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Originally posted by PVDfan07
I for one can't stand Obama. Whether ASOT is being serious or not, Obama should not be president.
Why?
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Originally posted by DiscoStew
After all, when you have a democratic process with voters who are not educated on the subject matter, you end up with something like the DJ Mag poll.
Good God, Chris. Just wow!
PVDfan07
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Originally posted by DiscoStew
Regardless of one's individual beliefs, it is fair to say that any web site that leads with a headline that reads "Obama = Taxes & Death" is putting out false information. The only thing worse than ignorance is misinformation.
How is this false information? He wants to tax more and he has the most liberal voting record on abortion. I'm sure you probably think I'm ignorant, but I know what he stands for and that is not what I stand for. I do think for myself you know. I don't blindly follow hannity.
Aww, Sam, you've bought into the Obama hype too? haha. Just kidding. As I said before, I think he stands for all the wrong things. He really isn't offering anything of substance, yet he some how has the support of so many people. Abortion, the war, taxes, healthcare, etc., I disagree with his positions. If I go issue by issue I could be on here all night. I don't really want to get into a big political argument, so I will leave it at that.
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Originally posted by DiscoStew
After all, when you have a democratic process with voters who are not educated on the subject matter, you end up with something like the DJ Mag poll.
I actually think the poll is pretty good. Besides always having Tiesto in the top 5 and people like Guetta and Infected Mushroom in there, I think it's good. My top 5 were in the top 10, so I can't complain. I know I'm probably adding on to my supposed ignorance in your eyes, but I don't care.
nchs09
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Originally posted by PVDfan07
I for one can't stand Obama. Whether ASOT is being serious or not, Obama should not be president. I'd be surprised if anyone on here supported McCain, but I proudly do.
The site actually seems pretty informative. You are probably an Obama supporter though, so of course he is automatically ignorant for posting a link to it.
DiscoStew
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Originally posted by PVDfan07
How is this false information? He wants to tax more...
...I know what he stands for
With a blanket statement like "he wants to tax more" you obviously don't. That sounds like party propaganda that is again, inaccurate. There are certain sectors of the population that will incur higher taxes with either candidate. No offense, but I doubt you fall into the small proportion of the population that will see a tax increase under the Obama plan. (If you are, that's great for you -- that would put you in the top 1% tax bracket and you can afford to go take some courses on economics.) Warren Buffet, one of the greatest minds of his generation, is advising and supporting the Obama campaign.
Now, if we wanted to make this an intelligent debate, I would probably begin with speaking to Obama's competence - his intellect, superior organization, measured approach, and the principled leadership of his campaign have been impressive, even to Republican onlookers. Then, I would mention foreign policy. Although the general public views foreign policy as one of McCain's strengths, Obama actually understands important elements including the facts that Ahmadinejad is not the real leader of Iran, Syria's terrorism in Lebanon has to do with disputed historical land, and a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq is necessary for progress (which even Bush now supports). But again, I can see that sparking an intellectual discussion would simply be an exercise in futility. So, instead, I leave you with this...
iammesol
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Originally posted by PVDfan07
Abortion, the war, taxes, healthcare, etc., I disagree with his positions.
Okay.
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Originally posted by PVDfan07
If I go issue by issue I could be on here all night. I don't really want to get into a big political argument, so I will leave it at that.
Okay.
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Originally posted by PVDfan07
He really isn't offering anything of substance
bahahahahahaha
Seppuku
So glad I don't support either candidate. :rolleyes:
nchs09
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Originally posted by Seppuku
So glad I don't support either candidate. :rolleyes: