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| qussay |
I stopped posting here for some time now , since i really dont have enough time to read , and reply to most of the opposing point of views .. but i would like to see how people react to this topic ... !
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/200...s.international
read this article ... now ... pretend they are Americans ... !!!
just like that movie , with Samuel Jackson ... |
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| tathi |
| its pretty disgusting but do you expect anything more humane from the israeli government? |
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| Q5echo |
Peace will come to the Middle East when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by ********
Thing is they have a land border with Egypt what is the deal? |
Egypt doesn't want Palestinians...no Arab country has any interest in taking Palestinians...Palestinians are pawns in a sick and violent game. this is not news. |
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| TranceGiant |
| quote: | Originally posted by tathi
its pretty disgusting but do you expect anything less one-sided from The Guardian? |
fix-ed! |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by tathi
its pretty disgusting but do you expect anything more humane from the israeli government? |
Nope. The Palestinians have every right to defend what is theirs. |
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| tathi |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGiant
fix-ed! |
anything other than honestreporting.com is anti israeli propaganda hey? haha
will still smell like and war crimes will still be war crimes no matter how deep the Ostridge apologists bury their heads in the sand and no matter how hard the israeli propaganda machine lies and tries to put a spin on it. |
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| Flotser |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
Nope. The Palestinians have every right to defend what is theirs. |
it was calm for several months, but then the Palestinians started shooting rockets on Israeli cities again. this time with even bigger rockets that reached the center of Ashkelon city.
what exactly do they defend? there was no israeli action in Gaza prior to the resumed attacks. on the contrary, israel keeps on releasing prisoners as a gesture to Abbas, even though the israli soldier Gilad Shalit is still kept in captivity 884 days and have been never visited by red-cross. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by Flotser
it was calm for several months, but then the Palestinians started shooting rockets on Israeli cities again. this time with even bigger rockets that reached the center of Ashkelon city.
what exactly do they defend? there was no israeli action in Gaza prior to the resumed attacks. on the contrary, israel keeps on releasing prisoners as a gesture to Abbas, even though the israli soldier Gilad Shalit is still kept in captivity 884 days and have been never visited by red-cross. |
Your country occupies their land. Your country sends settlers to take over Palestinian territory. Your country blockades Palestine and completely destroys their economy. Your country has turned Palestine into a failed state, and for that, your country will continue to endure Palestinian resistance. Do you honestly expect the Palestinian people to sit back while their country and nation are slowly destroyed? Hell no, they are going to fight. The sooner you and your country realize that, the sooner you can address the core problems of Palestinian terrorism and resistance. But unfortunately, I believe your country's leadership, and people, for that matter, couldn't give a rat's ass why Palestinians fight. They didn't just wake up one day and decide, "oh boy I feel like blowing myself up on a bus!" Think about it...:rolleyes: |
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| TranceGiant |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
Your country occupies their land. Your country sends settlers to take over Palestinian territory. Your country blockades Palestine and completely destroys their economy. Your country has turned Palestine into a failed state, and for that, your country will continue to endure Palestinian resistance. Do you honestly expect the Palestinian people to sit back while their country and nation are slowly destroyed? Hell no, they are going to fight. The sooner you and your country realize that, the sooner you can address the core problems of Palestinian terrorism and resistance. But unfortunately, I believe your country's leadership, and people, for that matter, couldn't give a rat's ass why Palestinians fight. They didn't just wake up one day and decide, "oh boy I feel like blowing myself up on a bus!" Think about it...:rolleyes: |
Prime example for cluelessness.
********: Cause and effect. Please do not confuse. Israel does not control the economy, taxes and the borders of the territories for the sake of controlling (after all this eats up gigantic financial and human resources which would be better used somewhere else!), but for security reasons.
Before you even continue with your quest for "justifications of Plaestinian terror" I urge you to take a look at the Hamas charter, which explicitely calls for Israel's destruction. That is something which is regularly emphasized in speeches, declarations, televion programs, textbooks and acts executed by Hamas. If it's not the occupation its economic restraints, if it nots that its the right of return etc. etc.
As for the economy, you should be aware of the fact that the Palestinians received the highest per capita subsidies (we're talking about billions from the EU) on the planet. Most of this money has been nicely invested in the Galeries Lafayette's women's department stores. Suha Arafat had a great taste after all.
Perhaps it's hard to aknowledge but great parts of the Palestinian misery are owed to their own leadership which prefered to take steal the money or to waste it on a ridiculous amounts of militas and security services, medial incitement or tons of AK-47s.
It's simple: Israel tried land for peace which blew up at the height of this process, namely after Camp David II which basically met all the Palestinian demands. It then took the "disengagement" approach, realizing that there's no reliable partner. The experiment ended in the Gazan fiasco which transformed it into a Hamastan terror base after hints of a cruel civil war (Fatah officials executed publically for example). Then there's the unprovoked kidnapping of Shalit and the never-ending rockets.
You better start waking up from your naive, idealistic dream that Hamas could be appeased with prgamatic concessions. It's not even a conventional "terrorist" organization, which "terrorizes" in order to achieve political goals (think ETA, IRA..). Hamas terrorizes for ideological and religious that are settled in a relam that cannot be reached by rational diplomatic proposals. It's sad, but it's a fact. |
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| qussay |
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I agree on spending alot of money elsewhere , or shall i say , wasting it ... !!
The rest ..... LOL ... !!!
I hope you have a nice view from Austria :eyespop: |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGiant
Prime example for cluelessness.
********: Cause and effect. Please do not confuse. Israel does not control the economy, taxes and the borders of the territories for the sake of controlling (after all this eats up gigantic financial and human resources which would be better used somewhere else!), but for security reasons.
Before you even continue with your quest for "justifications of Plaestinian terror" I urge you to take a look at the Hamas charter, which explicitely calls for Israel's destruction. That is something which is regularly emphasized in speeches, declarations, televion programs, textbooks and acts executed by Hamas. If it's not the occupation its economic restraints, if it nots that its the right of return etc. etc.
As for the economy, you should be aware of the fact that the Palestinians received the highest per capita subsidies (we're talking about billions from the EU) on the planet. Most of this money has been nicely invested in the Galeries Lafayette's women's department stores. Suha Arafat had a great taste after all.
Perhaps it's hard to aknowledge but great parts of the Palestinian misery are owed to their own leadership which prefered to take steal the money or to waste it on a ridiculous amounts of militas and security services, medial incitement or tons of AK-47s.
It's simple: Israel tried land for peace which blew up at the height of this process, namely after Camp David II which basically met all the Palestinian demands. It then took the "disengagement" approach, realizing that there's no reliable partner. The experiment ended in the Gazan fiasco which transformed it into a Hamastan terror base after hints of a cruel civil war (Fatah officials executed publically for example). Then there's the unprovoked kidnapping of Shalit and the never-ending rockets.
You better start waking up from your naive, idealistic dream that Hamas could be appeased with prgamatic concessions. It's not even a conventional "terrorist" organization, which "terrorizes" in order to achieve political goals (think ETA, IRA..). Hamas terrorizes for ideological and religious that are settled in a relam that cannot be reached by rational diplomatic proposals. It's sad, but it's a fact. |
Summary: Palestinians are just blood thirsty Jew haters. Ok, we get it.
Israel occupies and blockades Palestine. Palestine fights back. It's not a hard concept. You can call it terrorism all you want. I see no acknowledgment of Israeli state terrorism in your post. Not surprised by that, after all, Palestinians are just blood thirsty Jew hating barbarians right? |
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