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Rush Limbaugh - "I hope Obama Fails" (pg. 19)
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Capitalizt
Actually it's not good.. We need an opposition party. All this sh!t being pushed through congress is disastrous. I preferred the gridlock of the 90s. |
I'd like to see reasoned, reality based opposition to Obama and congress as well. If we could elevate the debate it would be nice. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by josh4
Well whada know... You see Q5, you gotta keep up with these things. Politics happen at lightspeed these days. |
That's too funny. CNN workers interviewed on CNN. They aren't taking credit for it "yet" because they aren't sure if it's going to work in the long run. Come on man, Carville and Begala did the same thing in Clinton's "war room" sessions targeting Limbaugh. LOL... lets include other quotes from the same interview not mentioned in the one you posted:
| quote: | Cooper: "Are you working with Carville, perhaps Emanuel, others in the White House, as part of a concerted effort to target Limbaugh?"
Begala: I don't know what you mean by concerted effort. I guess the short answer is, no, I do what I do, James. I'm -- he and I agree. My best friend. I've been -- we've been in business, informally at least, or formally, for 25 years.
Cooper. "Clearly you're talking to Rahm Emanuel every day on the phone, and this lightbulb's gone off in your head, and James Carville said, 'I find it hard to believe you don't say to Rahm Emanuel, "guess what, look at our poll numbers on Limbaugh."'"
BEGALA: I don't know. I don't keep careful notes of these things. My view is I keep private conversations private, Anderson, and that's part of -- of what I do to try to figure out what's going on in the world. But also, I mean, I -- I talk to my friends about any number of things. But here's the secret: I don't like Rush Limbaugh. Here's the other secret: He is the most powerful person in the Republican Party today, bar none. |
So, Begala doesn't know if if they talked about him... doesn't take notes... depends on the definition of "concerted".
Then, Bill O'Reilly asked Clinton's former guy Dick Morris this:
| quote: | O'Reilly: "What about this effort to link the Republican Party to Limbaugh and the White House taking out this attack? What do you think about this, Dick?"
MORRIS: Carville, Emanuel, and Stephanopoulos have a mind meld.
O'Reilly: Okay. But is it smart --
MORRIS: It's a smart strategy. I did the same thing when I worked for Clinton. I didn't like running against Bob Dole 'cause he was a decent guy. And we didn't have anything to say about Jack Kemp, his running mate, so we made Newt Gingrich his running mate, and we said vote against the Dole-Gingrich proposal and we basically put Gingrich on the ballot even though he wasn't because back then a lot of people didn't like him. |
Saul Alinsky Rule #13. Don't make me repeat it. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
Saul Alinsky Rule #13. Don't make me repeat it. |
You're the only one who puts any credence in them, so I won't make you repeat it. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by Capitalizt
Actually it's not good.. We need an opposition party. All this sh!t being pushed through congress is disastrous. I preferred the gridlock of the 90s. |
The Repubs had their chance with one party rule. Time for the Dems to have theirs. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
The implication of your question is the Republican Party is leaderless. Thank god for that. The party is in shambles. |
maybe in the electorate (the media being an extention of that), but right now at this moment i believe the party is firmly united where they need to be and thats in Congress. the great thing about this Congressional unity is, from appearances anyway, galvanized by principles not so much certain individuals that are standard bearers said principles. the question being is it enough? i think so, for now.
as far as the scattered electorate and who they are influenced by is concerned, these things take time and unity usually comes around again with election cycles. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by josh4
Well whada know... You see Q5, you gotta keep up with these things. Politics happen at lightspeed these days. |
of course Begala is going to deny it. what's the downside for Begala to lie and deny it? zero
you have to ask yourself who's got more to lose for lying about it or denying it. |
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| josh4 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
of course Begala is going to deny it. what's the downside for Begala to lie and deny it? zero
you have to ask yourself who's got more to lose for lying about it or denying it. |
Yes okay - Operation Rushbo. They planned it all in their secret underground democratic cabal war room. Al Gore chaired the meeting and Pelosi was by his side. Afterward they gloated about how well Operation Man-Made Global Warming is going. "No respectable scientist will ever refute the claims now that we've brainwashed them all! Muahahaha!"
You guys and your librul conspiracies. You're sounding more and more like shaolin_z every day, someone get pkc to smack some sense into these guys. They're out of power and foaming at the mouth. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
maybe in the electorate (the media being an extention of that), but right now at this moment i believe the party is firmly united where they need to be and thats in Congress. the great thing about this Congressional unity is, from appearances anyway, galvanized by principles not so much certain individuals that are standard bearers said principles. the question being is it enough? i think so, for now.
as far as the scattered electorate and who they are influenced by is concerned, these things take time and unity usually comes around again with election cycles. |
The electorate, yea, no leader. Partisanwise, it's Rush Limbaugh without a doubt. The man is the defacto ideologue of the Republican Party. The sorry fact for Republicans though is...most of the country, is tired of war, tired of corporate kickbacks, and tired of Republicans, because they are the ones viewed as the party responsible for these abuses. Even Rush Limbaugh can't deny the fact that this recession, and the abuses which caused it, happened during Bush's stint. It's amusing how they try to blame it all on Clinton, or the Democrats. I have never seen a Republican actually take a look at themselves, and ever admit mistakes. It's always someone else's fault for Republicans. With that kind of sorry attitude, I don't see them having a chance in the next election, if Obama proves to be a good president. |
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| josh4 |
keeps getting better
| quote: | Rush: Kennedy won't live to see health reform
Rush Limbaugh suggested that one of the main sponsors of health care reform won't live to see its passage, telling his audience today: "Before it's all over, it'll be called the Ted Kennedy memorial health care bill."
http://www.politico.com/blogs/glenn...lth_reform.html |
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| Alex |
| Wow is he ever a dick. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
I have never seen a Republican actually take a look at themselves, and ever admit mistakes. It's always someone else's fault for Republicans. With that kind of sorry attitude, I don't see them having a chance in the next election, if Obama proves to be a good president. |
to be fair, no politician is very good at admitting fault. Unfortunately, supporters of the republican party tend to be staunchly supportive of the party, which often clouds an objective view of opposing opinions (and in certain cases, reality). I could not careless who is in power as long as my life improves as a result. Even though I'm a registered democrat, I'm highly critical of both republicans and democrats. I voted for Obama, but i think the bailouts are getting out of control, the stimulus is highly wasteful, and the submitted budget is . In other words, I am not happy with Obama to this point, which is not to say I think McCain would be doing any better with his economic policy. I just think Obama's actions to this point have been absolute . |
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
I could not careless who is in power as long as my life improves as a result. Even though I'm a registered democrat, I'm highly critical of both republicans and democrats. I voted for Obama, but i think the bailouts are getting out of control, the stimulus is highly wasteful, and the submitted budget is . In other words, I am not happy with Obama to this point, which is not to say I think McCain would be doing any better with his economic policy. I just think Obama's actions to this point have been absolute . |
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