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Ecstasy 'not worse than riding' (pg. 3)
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| Dervish |
| quote: | Originally posted by aNYthing
horse. this guy is a nutt. ask Christopher Reeve how does he feel about dangers of horses... or extasy. |
This guy is also on the board of Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs. :p
His point was about 30 a year die from ecstasy (he's saying it is dangerous) while about 100 die from horse riding (also dangerous). And it is likely more people take ecstasy than do horse riding in the UK.
Both of them expose you to danger, but for some reason we are stopped from taking ecstasy but allowed to do horse riding. Maybe it's because if it was legal loads more people would try/take ecstasy? |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| 33% of car accidents are caused by drunk drivers...that means 64% are caused by sober drivers...so that means we should all get drunk before driving. |
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| Taranis |
Stupid article.
The issue with MDMA isn't the (miniscule) chance of dying, it's the potential it has to do neurological damage, leaving users with long term emotional and cognitive problems.
Luckily studies suggest that these at least partially reverse with extended abstinance, but too many people trivialize the long term effects of MDMA because they enjoy the high too much to want to believe that they're hurting themselves. There's a really dangerous culture of denial about the drug which I find incredibly sad. |
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| Dervish |
And what about booze? It causes a lot of damage too but it is allowed.
And as for the drunk driver position why not make booze illegal then? |
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| Taranis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dervish
And what about booze? It causes a lot of damage too but it is allowed.
And as for the drunk driver position why not make booze illegal then? |
Only when chronically abused. The kind of recreational alcohol use we see in 99% of the population isn't neurotoxic. Of course there are a whole host of other factors, and I'd say alcohol can be equally damaging, just in other ways.
They tried making booze illegal. The whole prohibition thing. Didn't go down too well.
In the end I think legality should be approached in a utilitarian fashion, I certainly think MDMA should be decriminalized for personal use, I don't think turning clubbers into criminals achieves anything except encouraging even more risk taking with MDMA use, but I think legalization would promote even more rampant abuse than currently, and that's just not a good thing. |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by Taranis
Stupid article.
The issue with MDMA isn't the (miniscule) chance of dying, it's the potential it has to do neurological damage, leaving users with long term emotional and cognitive problems.
Luckily studies suggest that these at least partially reverse with extended abstinance, but too many people trivialize the long term effects of MDMA because they enjoy the high too much to want to believe that they're hurting themselves. There's a really dangerous culture of denial about the drug which I find incredibly sad. |
Can confirm. |
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| aNYthing |
, I would kill for quality-assured, government controlled (e) - it would make riding horses naked, wasted on (e) fun again.
Wait... what? |
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| happyness |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
Yes. I'm sick of people trying to justify their drug usage to themselves by denying that it's harmful. Like many other substances, ecstasy degrades your neurotransmitter systems with every dose. The fact that I feel like complete right now is proof of that. |
Exactly why I'm off the . |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
Yes. I'm sick of people trying to justify their drug usage to themselves by denying that it's harmful. Like many other substances, ecstasy degrades your neurotransmitter systems with every dose. The fact that I feel like complete right now is proof of that. |
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| ownymcown |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
Yes. I'm sick of people trying to justify their drug usage to themselves by denying that it's harmful. Like many other substances, ecstasy degrades your neurotransmitter systems with every dose. The fact that I feel like complete right now is proof of that. |
LOL "degrades your neurotransmitter systems"? You have no idea what the you are talking about.
The fact is, there is NO conclusive study that says long-term ecstasy use is harmful. Not one, so shut up. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by ownymcown
LOL "degrades your neurotransmitter systems"? You have no idea what the you are talking about.
The fact is, there is NO conclusive study that says long-term ecstasy use is harmful. Not one, so shut up. |
Take an ecstasy tablet everyday for a year, and see if it doesn't ur brain up. |
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| ownymcown |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
Take an ecstasy tablet everyday for a year, and see if it doesn't ur brain up. |
Stop taking it for a year, and see if I don't return to normal. Dumbass.
Moderate (once every 1-3 months) is perfectly acceptable. |
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