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Ecstasy 'not worse than riding' (pg. 4)
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by ownymcown
Stop taking it for a year, and see if I don't return to normal. Dumbass.
Moderate (once every 1-3 months) is perfectly acceptable. |
ur the idiot who thinks recreational amounts of E has no negative effect on brain chemistry. hint, it does...:rolleyes: |
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| ownymcown |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
ur the idiot who thinks recreational amounts of E has no negative effect on brain chemistry. hint, it does...:rolleyes: |
Only for as long as you take it, but no study has yet to prove it causes permanent long term damage... |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by ownymcown
LOL "degrades your neurotransmitter systems"? You have no idea what the you are talking about.
The fact is, there is NO conclusive study that says long-term ecstasy use is harmful. Not one, so shut up. |
On the other hand, there are no conclusive studies that say it's not harmful long-term.
Seeing as there is plenty anecdotal evidence supporting the fact that ecstasy is harmful, I'm going to stick with believing that.
| quote: | Originally posted by ownymcown
Only for as long as you take it, but no study has yet to prove it causes permanent long term damage... |
Even if the damage caused by ecstasy is short term (i.e less than a year to heal), why should that be acceptable? Is it acceptable to have a broken finger or toe for a year, just because you know it will heal eventually? |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
your logic is flawed. Moderation is key with everything.. The problem with extacy is that it is addictive and people get hoooked on it.
Did you know that oxygen is degenerative to us but we inhale it in order to survive? |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
your logic is flawed. Moderation is key with everything.. The problem with extacy is that it is addictive and people get hoooked on it. |
No it isn't. People can stop doing ecstasy any time they like. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by ownymcown
Only for as long as you take it, but no study has yet to prove it causes permanent long term damage... |
When you take ecstasy, your brain cells not only flood themselves with serotonin, but with 'free radical' molecules, which damage cell walls, reduce the flexibility of blood vessels, destroy enzymes, and cause other molecular damage in the neurological pathways. MDMA itself is no a nuero-toxin. But the resultant chemical reactions caused by the effect of the drug are certainly damaging to the brain.
Ecstasy, if taken enough will cause LONG-TERM damage to the brain. I'v seen it first hand. Never mind my anecdotal evidence. There's plenty of scientific studies to sift through. I suggest you begin at www.erowid.org. |
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| ownymcown |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
On the other hand, there are no conclusive studies that say it's not harmful long-term.
Seeing as there is plenty anecdotal evidence supporting the fact that ecstasy is harmful, I'm going to stick with believing that.
Even if the damage caused by ecstasy is short term (i.e less than a year to heal), why should that be acceptable? Is it acceptable to have a broken finger or toe for a year, just because you know it will heal eventually? |
Quite the opposite, there are people who have been rolling for decades and are now fine, they aren't vegetables, in fact nothing is wrong with them (I've read many first hand accounts of such veterans of e, and according to themselves, they are fine).
As to your last point, it's different strokes for different folks. Some people would take the risk of short term damage, some people wouldn't. It's not as stupid as breaking your own toe though, there is a payoff from taking e (the enjoyment you get).
The reasoning of the article in the OP may be flawed, but the more important issue is the legality of it. Why make it illegal? Legal drugs have killed far more people (oxies, benzos).
A better analogy is, if you let people jump out of planes (risk taking behavior), why not let them risk their lives with drugs?
Edit: Krypton, I'm positive there AREN'T any studies that suggest any of the damage caused by use of mdma isn't reversible. Sorry, you're wrong. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
your logic is flawed. Moderation is key with everything.. The problem with extacy is that it is addictive and people get hoooked on it.
Did you know that oxygen is degenerative to us but we inhale it in order to survive? |
it may be psychologically addictive, but i dont believe it to be physically addictive. |
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