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Ecstasy 'not worse than riding' (pg. 5)
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
No it isn't. People can stop doing ecstasy any time they like. |
really?
tell it to the crack head that smashed up my pt cruiser.
sure its not the healthiest thing.. but if you do it once in a while its effects are probably not much more negative then taking study drugs. (ritalin, dexidrine etc).
you'll fry your neurons for sure if you do excess.. but once or twice a year is negligable |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
it may be psychologically addictive, but i dont believe it to be physically addictive. |
i would probably compare its addiction to that of cocaine. your mind will crave it to return to that mood again. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
i would probably compare its addiction to that of cocaine. your mind will crave it to return to that mood again. |
maybe when you first start coming down. But when i was coming down, and coming down hard, i had the thought, "im never rolling ever again" going through my head. It's nothing like cocaine m8... |
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| happyness |
so much better than cocaine.
why are you sugar coating??? |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
really?
tell it to the crack head that smashed up my pt cruiser.
sure its not the healthiest thing.. but if you do it once in a while its effects are probably not much more negative then taking study drugs. (ritalin, dexidrine etc).
you'll fry your neurons for sure if you do excess.. but once or twice a year is negligable |
Are you trying to say that someone smashed up your PT cruiser to get at ecstasy pills that were inside?
a) You deserve it for driving a PT cruiser.
b) A "crack head" is someone addicted to crack, not ecstasy.
c) How do you know what they were after when they smashed it up?
d) Ecstasy is not physically addictive. Maybe mentally, but mental addiction is the same as any other kind of addiction; a weakness of the mind. A physical addiction is something completely different, when your body can no longer actually function properly without the drug. This is not the case with ecstasy. I could take it every day for a month, then never again, and I would still be able to function without it. |
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| happyness |
| i thought addiction was a disease? |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
my point is that a mental addiction is just as serious as a physical addiction. There are such things as mental diseases you know (Schitzophrenia, alztimers *sp).
If you have a tendancy to be addicted to feelings or substances you can get hooked on something that can make you feel as good as extacy and cocaine. In the end you'll be messing up your neurotransmitter triggering if excess drug use is attained.
Again i go back by my statement and i can assure you that taking a couple of E pills in a year is probably not going to hurt you in the long run. |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
Ecstasy is not physically addictive. |
What? Ecstasy is a meth-amphetamine derivative. It certainly is physically addictive, even in it's pure MDMA form (which isn't what most people are getting anyway). |
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| happyness |
| When you reach the point you 'can't go out without it', you're toast.:) |
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| ownymcown |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
What? Ecstasy is a meth-amphetamine derivative. It certainly is physically addictive, even in it's pure MDMA form (which isn't what most people are getting anyway). |
No it's not, heroin is physically addictive, meaning your body needs it after a certain period of overuse ( and when you quit you feel like ).
E is not really psychologically addictive either, probably due to the comedown that one experiences right after. For certain people it's habit forming, they just like doing it a lot (but might not need to).
The problem with drugs like e is all the misinformation that is spread around. |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
my point is that a mental addiction is just as serious as a physical addiction. There are such things as mental diseases you know (Schitzophrenia, alztimers *sp). |
No, it's not. Being addicted to computer games or gambling is no where near as dangerous as being addicted to drugs or alcohol.
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
What? Ecstasy is a meth-amphetamine derivative. It certainly is physically addictive. |
The difference being that ecstasy does not directly act on dopamine, the neurotransmitter which controls rewards and addiction. Alcohol, cocaine and speed all act directly on dopamine.
Heroin is addictive in a worse way; it takes the place of endorphins in your body after prolonged usage. Endorphins are what transmit feelings of pleasure within the body. This takes you into a state of anhedonia where you’re in constant pain and may have seizures, migraines, vomiting and all those kinds of things. |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
The difference being that ecstasy does not directly act on dopamine, the neurotransmitter which controls rewards and addiction. Alcohol, cocaine and speed all act directly on dopamine. |
Interesting. Maybe I'm misinformed then. It's been quite a long time since I was a pill-head, so it's not something I've done a lot of reading on any time recently. |
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