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Which Trance producer uses Fruity Loops? (pg. 3)
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Aesthetic
lol
cronodevir
Ok, I'm getting tired of hearing about this deadmau5 guy...

PVD, BT, Rank1, Airwave, Tiesto, Armin...do you guys want some Provalon or Gorganzola with that Mozerella?
adi_hanson
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Originally posted by echosystm
like who, BT? deadmau5? armin van buuren? rank 1?

none of them use fl as their main daw (no, not even deadmau5) ;)

at the end of the day, fl has a sweet workflow for making beats. i actually use it sometimes instead of guru... but it is a piss poor daw. the audio editing and recording is laughable, hardware support is a joke, no auto pdc, no proper sidechaining and no proper multicore cpu support. oh, the developer is a knob too. :)

that's not to say you can't make good music with it though... but on technical merit, it sucks a fat one... gags on it even.


This is pretty much it..(execpt the sidechain bit)

In comparison , the Renault 5 was a pile of cheap hunk , but until someone decided to shove a turbocharged engine in it and a bit of bodywork , it became a cult classic.

But each to there own.
Stef
quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
Mark Norman is two people, you retard.



I don't like your music :)


OMG
toasting in an epic bread
DJ Robby Rox
If FL Studio is , than Reason is the regurgation from the fly that eats the and spits it out back onto the .

But seriously, I've been FL hardcore for years and last week starting fumbling around with Cubase, I fvcking hate it.

Echo what did you move to after FL?

edit: forget it I saw you wrote Guru.
EgosXII
quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
Mark Norman is two people, you retard.



I don't like your music :)


hahaha

true tho.. i always thout FL was a sequencer for people who had never used any better DAW, then once you understood the basics you moved onto the big-boy programs... :conf:
echosystm
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
Echo what did you move to after FL?

edit: forget it I saw you wrote Guru.


Guru isn't a daw - it's just a drum machine. What I was saying is that I use FL like a drum machine sometimes (as a VST in Cubase).

I was on and off FL for about 2 years and used basically every obscure DAW there is. It is very hard to get your head out of the pattern based workflow of FL and into the more common timeline style workflow. I've been using Cubase for probably the last 3 or so years. I'm not totally happy with it, but it is the DAW with the least irritating limitations, so I use it. If the problems with FL were fixed, I would still be using FL, but the developer has stated he has no intention of fixing most of them (absolute joke).

I think Ableton is the closest thing to FL. I found it quite easy to get into, but at the time the routing and a few other things were very poor. Ableton also rapes your computer... I couldn't believe how much CPU and RAM it whores out! If I was going to use something other than Cubase, it would be Ableton.

Reaper is awesome, but has a lot of stability issues. Likewise, the UI isn't very nice looking and is hard to use unless you customise the theme. Reaper is totally skinnable, but I find they are all really half-assed - basically look like and are frustrating from a usability point of view too.

Sonar has, by far, the best feature set of any PC DAW. The plugins are all fantastic. However, the user interface is an absolute ing NIGHTMARE. The first time I trialed Sonar, I took one look at it and closed it. I forced myself to use it for a month, but everything is so ridiculously convoluted that I gave up in the end. If you can get over this, Sonar is the DAW to use, IMO... but I couldn't :p
cronodevir
quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
Guru isn't a daw - it's just a drum machine. What I was saying is that I use FL like a drum machine sometimes (as a VST in Cubase).

I was on and off FL for about 2 years and used basically every obscure DAW there is. It is very hard to get your head out of the pattern based workflow of FL and into the more common timeline style workflow. I've been using Cubase for probably the last 3 or so years. I'm not totally happy with it, but it is the DAW with the least irritating limitations, so I use it. If the problems with FL were fixed, I would still be using FL, but the developer has stated he has no intention of fixing most of them (absolute joke).

I think Ableton is the closest thing to FL. I found it quite easy to get into, but at the time the routing and a few other things were very poor. Ableton also rapes your computer... I couldn't believe how much CPU and RAM it whores out! If I was going to use something other than Cubase, it would be Ableton.

Reaper is awesome, but has a lot of stability issues. Likewise, the UI isn't very nice looking and is hard to use unless you customise the theme. Reaper is totally skinnable, but I find they are all really half-assed - basically look like and are frustrating from a usability point of view too.

Sonar has, by far, the best feature set of any PC DAW. The plugins are all fantastic. However, the user interface is an absolute ing NIGHTMARE. The first time I trialed Sonar, I took one look at it and closed it. I forced myself to use it for a month, but everything is so ridiculously convoluted that I gave up in the end. If you can get over this, Sonar is the DAW to use, IMO... but I couldn't :p


FLStudio is pattern based?


OH...that's what those extra patters are for. Never used em :P Put all my tracks on pattern one. [and the playlist has one track too :D]
DJ Robby Rox
Cubase ehh?

I tried it last week for a few days and wasn't exactly feeling it "click". I know I need to give it more time but I have to stop using FL first. Even today I started it up for 15mins, realized how much farther I could have got w/fruity in that time and just closed it out.

I'll still be trying its just a real different UI to get use to.
noicuc
I still dont get it why FL studio really sucks that much. Why?

adi_hanson
You dont have to use the pattern blocks to make stuff in FL
echosystm
quote:
Originally posted by noicuc
I still dont get it why FL studio really sucks that much. Why?


Read...

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
the audio editing and recording is laughable, hardware support is a joke, no auto pdc, no proper sidechaining and no proper multicore cpu support. oh, the developer is a knob too. :)
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