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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
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is this better information than the time you made a fool of yourself with the list of hundreds of climate change deniers? :conf: |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I've been saying this for a while. Even if humanity is responsible for global warming it's mere hubris to assume we're going to destroy the world. A thousand years ago people used to grow wine in England and you could never do that today. Back when dinosaurs ruled the earth the poles were far warmer and more inhabitable than they are today.
The climate is in a state of constant flux, and on the grand scale of things this little peak in the graph we may or may not have caused is all. Life is not going to end because of global warming. |
My thoughts exactly.
I've read quite a few historic novels, particularly these two:
http://www.edwardrutherfurd.com/uk/books/russka.php
http://www.edwardrutherfurd.com/uk/books/london.php
in which noticeable climate change is well-documented right from the time of the Romans through to now. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| are you a global warming denier domesticated?? |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
is this better information than the time you made a fool of yourself with the list of hundreds of climate change deniers? :conf: |
everything i post is "better information". it's all relative
funny you should mention that list though b/c Nils-Axel Mörner was on it as well. >PDF LINK< that list gets bigger every day. it's a work in progress.
peace |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
everything i post is "better information". it's all relative |
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| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
funny you should mention that list though b/c Nils-Axel Mörner was on it as well. >PDF LINK< that list gets bigger every day. it's a work in progress.
peace |
well, its easier to make a list bigger when you refuse to remove the names of people that have requested you do so ;) |
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| Sunsnail |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
Exactly where do you think water goes after you put it down the drain? |
It goes down to the sewage facility. Is that the ocean? :rolleyes: |
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| psymon.d |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I've been saying this for a while. Even if humanity is responsible for global warming it's mere hubris to assume we're going to destroy the world. A thousand years ago people used to grow wine in England and you could never do that today. Back when dinosaurs ruled the earth the poles were far warmer and more inhabitable than they are today.
The climate is in a state of constant flux, and on the grand scale of things this little peak in the graph we may or may not have caused is all. Life is not going to end because of global warming. |
I wont deny that such periods have occurred as to do so would be to deny fact. During the Eocene, there were palm trees in Northern Canada (and by this point, Northern Canada basically is where it is today) That being said, you might find these graphs from a recent university lecture interesting.
Temperature recorded and simulated by rather old trees in the desert southwest of America
Increase in CO2 levels:
Based on these, we're rapidly changing temperature via our influence, and as I'm sure you know, rapid changes on Earth mean for serious consequences on the biosphere with as little as a few changes in terms of degrees centigrade, not to mention the widely predicted and accepted variations in precipitation. While I agree that all life will not end because of warming and climate change, much of it will. And personally, I'm not detached nor irresponsible enough to brush it off or basically think ' it'. |
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| Domesticated |
Those graphs only go back 1000 years.
The changes we're talking about don't occur in under 100,000 years. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
Those graphs only go back 1000 years.
The changes we're talking about don't occur in under 100,000 years. |
eh? |
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| psymon.d |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
Those graphs only go back 1000 years.
The changes we're talking about don't occur in under 100,000 years. |
The CO2 one goes back 10,000 years.
The point I'm and they are illustrating is a rapid change, and the introduction of mass burning of fossil fuels.
It may be fine to argue about warmer, or different temperatures in the past, but if you're only doing that, you're ignoring the sharp increase and the overwhelming correlation with human activity. |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by psymon.d
The CO2 one goes back 10,000 years.
The point I'm and they are illustrating is a rapid change, and the introduction of mass burning of fossil fuels.
It may be fine to argue about warmer, or different temperatures in the past, but if you're doing that, you're ignoring the sharp increase and the overwhelming correlation with human activity. |
Fair enough. As I said, I believe that global warming exists due to man kind's actions, I just don't think it will be the catastrophe they're predicting.
I just thought of something interesting; perhaps in the future negative cycles will need to be counteracted and scientists will create a device which spews carbon dioxide into the atmosphere at a rate far greater than all the cars on the road today, and then they'll create a scrubber which will get rid of the carbon dioxide and make things colder, and each device is activated in turn over thousands of years depending on requirement. Thus rudimentary weather control is invented. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
thankyou, saved me the time to correct the partisan hack. i mean honestly :rolleyes: |
LOL... pull the string on your back and the same 10 things or so always come out. |
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