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| Sunsnail |
I was watching inconvenient truth the other day and theres the bit where it shows the sea level rising really high and flooding most of the world. Well i live near the sea, and don’t want to drown, so i got to thinking. Maybe if we lower the sea level a bit, when the water level rises then it won’t rise high enough to flood.
Anyway, heres the plan. Everyone who can should take a bucket of sea water and pour it down the sink. If lots of people put the effort in, we could lower the sea level substantially and create a better world for our children to live
If we all work together we can solve this problem. Come on guys :D |
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| Cpt.Cocaine |
| The sea level rises because global warming makes the poles melt. But what if we warm up the planet so much that the water evaporates? |
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| Vivid Boy |
| why dont we stop the rotation of the earth and we all grab onto something so we dont fly off and this way some of the water splashes off into space. or we could all get a bucket of c02 and throw it into space. |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sunsnail
I was watching inconvenient truth the other day and theres the bit where it shows the sea level rising really high and flooding most of the world. Well i live near the sea, and don’t want to drown, so i got to thinking. Maybe if we lower the sea level a bit, when the water level rises then it won’t rise high enough to flood.
Anyway, heres the plan. Everyone who can should take a bucket of sea water and pour it down the sink. If lots of people put the effort in, we could lower the sea level substantially and create a better world for our children to live
If we all work together we can solve this problem. Come on guys :D |
Exactly where do you think water goes after you put it down the drain? |
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| Vivid Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
Exactly where do you think water goes after you put it down the drain? |
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| The17sss |
This is another fallacy extolled by "climatologists" that don't do research. It's called the "Archimedes Principle".
From James O'Brien, Professior Emeritus at Florida State University who studies climate variability and the oceans (yes people, he's legit.. FSU has one of the top 3 meterology schools in the country):
| quote: | “Global climate change is occurring in many places in the world,” O’Brien said. “But everything that’s attributed to global warming, almost none of it is global warming.”
He took issue with the AP article’s assertion that melting Arctic ice will cause global sea levels to rise.
“When the Arctic Ocean ice melts, it never raises sea level because floating ice is floating ice, because it’s displacing water,” O’Brien said. “When the ice melts, sea level actually goes down. I call it a fourth grade science experiment. Take a glass, put some ice in it. Put water in it. Mark level where water is. Let it [melt]. After the ice melts, the sea level didn’t go up in your glass of water. It’s called the Archimedes Principle.” |
O'Brien calls hysteria on sea levels "major scare tactic," the kind one would expect a science reporter to debunk rather than to perpetuate. He wants public policy on climate change to be informed rather than hysterical. The fact that water is less dense as a solid than as a liquid(which is why ice cubes float in your drink) never seems to occur to the AP's "science" writer, who probably never heard of the Archimedes Principle before now. The only way melting ice would raise sea levels would be if water was more dense as a solid than a liquid, which if true would mean ice would get submerged below water than float on top of it.
Surce: Scientists Call AP Report on Global Warming 'Hysteria'
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,468084,00.html
Edit: did you know that Al Gore was recently forced to remove a slide from his Inconvenient Truth powerpoint on disaster trends because they were so inaccurate?
http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/23/gore-pulls-slide-of-disaster-trends/ |
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| SYSTEM-J |
I've often thought the best thing to do would be to build a series of major canals through every landmass, and use the excavated earth to raise the land around these canals. Boats would replace automobiles as the dominant form of transport and you could still build bridges over the canals to create a multi-tiered transport network.
Of course, this would require a massive allocation of resources and couldn't be executed in existing cities. It's still less stupid than pouring sea water down a drain though.
EDIT: | quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
O'Brien calls hysteria on sea levels "major scare tactic," the kind one would expect a science reporter to debunk rather than to perpetuate. He wants public policy on climate change to be informed rather than hysterical. The fact that water is less dense as a solid than as a liquid(which is why ice cubes float in your drink) never seems to occur to the AP's "science" writer, who probably never heard of the Archimedes Principle before now. The only way melting ice would raise sea levels would be if water was more dense as a solid than a liquid, which if true would mean ice would get submerged below water than float on top of it. |
Indeed. Hydrogen bondings means that water is one of the few elements that is less dense as a solid, meaning the sea levels would actually drop if floating ice melted. I was under the impression, however, that it's the ice currently on land (IE: the South Pole) that would us up. |
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| Vivid Boy |
| i say we do this. its crazy but i think its smart. we open a package of grape koolaid and dump it in the ocean. we get all the black people in the world to drink it. and then we trick them into thinking they won a free trip to space. once theyre out there. we zap em with a laser. |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
This is another fallacy extolled by "climatologists" that don't do research. It's called the "Archimedes Principle"/ Check it out:
From James O'Brien, Professior Emeritus at Florida State University who studies climate variability and the oceans (yes people, he's legit.. FSU has one of the top 3 meterology schools in the country).
O'Brien calls hysteria on sea levels "major scare tactic," the kind one would expect a science reporter to debunk rather than to perpetuate. He wants public policy on climate change to be informed rather than hysterical. The fact that water is less dense as a solid than as a liquid(which is why ice cubes float in your drink) never seems to occur to the AP's "science" writer, who probably never heard of the Archimedes Principle before now. The only way melting ice would raise sea levels would be if water was more dense as a solid than a liquid, which if true would mean ice would get submerged below water than float on top of it.
Surce: Scientists Call AP Report on Global Warming 'Hysteria'
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,468084,00.html
Edit: did you know that Al Gore was recently forced to remove a slide from his Inconvenient Truth powerpoint on disaster trends because they were so inaccurate?
http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2...isaster-trends/ |
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This principle would be correct were it not for the fact that a majority of ice is not submerged within the sea; it's on raised shelves directly above the sea.
On global warming; I agree that it exists, but not nearly to the extent that's been paraded.
I own a copy of this book:
http://www.theweathermakers.org/
It explains that the Earth periodically goes through warming and cooling cycles as part of its natural regulation, hence "ice-ages".
I believe we are at the apex of such a cycle at the moment, and that this particular cycle is relatively subtle and mild compared to what could, and has happened. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
It explains that the Earth periodically goes through warming and cooling cycles as part of its natural regulation, hence "ice-ages".
I believe we are at the apex of such a cycle at the moment, and that this particular cycle is relatively subtle and mild compared to what could, and has happened. |
I've been saying this for a while. Even if humanity is responsible for global warming it's mere hubris to assume we're going to destroy the world. A thousand years ago people used to grow wine in England and you could never do that today. Back when dinosaurs ruled the earth the poles were far warmer and more inhabitable than they are today.
The climate is in a state of constant flux, and on the grand scale of things this little peak in the graph we may or may not have caused is all. Life is not going to end because of global warming. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
The uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story, writes Christopher Booker.
Last Updated: 6:31PM GMT 28 Mar 2009
If one thing more than any other is used to justify proposals that the world must spend tens of trillions of dollars on combating global warming, it is the belief that we face a disastrous rise in sea levels. The Antarctic and Greenland ice caps will melt, we are told, warming oceans will expand, and the result will be catastrophe.
Although the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) only predicts a sea level rise of 59cm (17 inches) by 2100, Al Gore in his Oscar-winning film An Inconvenient Truth went much further, talking of 20 feet, and showing computer graphics of cities such as Shanghai and San Francisco half under water. We all know the graphic showing central London in similar plight. As for tiny island nations such as the Maldives and Tuvalu, as Prince Charles likes to tell us and the Archbishop of Canterbury was again parroting last week, they are due to vanish.
But if there is one scientist who knows more about sea levels than anyone else in the world it is the Swedish geologist and physicist Nils-Axel Mörner, formerly chairman of the INQUA International Commission on Sea Level Change. And the uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner, who for 35 years has been using every known scientific method to study sea levels all over the globe, is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story.
Despite fluctuations down as well as up, "the sea is not rising," he says. "It hasn't risen in 50 years." If there is any rise this century it will "not be more than 10cm (four inches), with an uncertainty of plus or minus 10cm". And quite apart from examining the hard evidence, he says, the elementary laws of physics (latent heat needed to melt ice) tell us that the apocalypse conjured up by
Al Gore and Co could not possibly come about.
The reason why Dr Mörner, formerly a Stockholm professor, is so certain that these claims about sea level rise are 100 per cent wrong is that they are all based on computer model predictions, whereas his findings are based on "going into the field to observe what is actually happening in the real world".
When running the International Commission on Sea Level Change, he launched a special project on the Maldives, whose leaders have for 20 years been calling for vast sums of international aid to stave off disaster. Six times he and his expert team visited the islands, to confirm that the sea has not risen for half a century. Before announcing his findings, he offered to show the inhabitants a film explaining why they had nothing to worry about. The government refused to let it be shown.
Similarly in Tuvalu, where local leaders have been calling for the inhabitants to be evacuated for 20 years, the sea has if anything dropped in recent decades. The only evidence the scaremongers can cite is based on the fact that extracting groundwater for pineapple growing has allowed seawater to seep in to replace it. Meanwhile, Venice has been sinking rather than the Adriatic rising, says Dr Mörner.
One of his most shocking discoveries was why the IPCC has been able to show sea levels rising by 2.3mm a year. Until 2003, even its own satellite-based evidence showed no upward trend. But suddenly the graph tilted upwards because the IPCC's favoured experts had drawn on the finding of a single tide-gauge in Hong Kong harbour showing a 2.3mm rise. The entire global sea-level projection was then adjusted upwards by a "corrective factor" of 2.3mm, because, as the IPCC scientists admitted, they "needed to show a trend".
When I spoke to Dr Mörner last week, he expressed his continuing dismay at how the IPCC has fed the scare on this crucial issue. When asked to act as an "expert reviewer" on the IPCC's last two reports, he was "astonished to find that not one of their 22 contributing authors on sea levels was a sea level specialist: not one". Yet the results of all this "deliberate ignorance" and reliance on rigged computer models have become the most powerful single driver of the entire warmist hysteria.
•For more information, see Dr Mörner on YouTube (Google Mörner, Maldives and YouTube); or read on the net his 2007 EIR interview "Claim that sea level is rising is a total fraud"; or email him – [email protected] – to buy a copy of his booklet 'The Greatest Lie Ever Told'
Fined, frozen and now jailed
The Marine Fisheries Agency was certainly onto a winner when it enlisted the aid of the Assets Recovery Agency in its ruthless war against our fishermen. In December 2007 Charles McBride and his son Charles, from Kilkeel in Northern Ireland, were fined £385,000 for under-declaring catches of whitefish and prawns in the Irish Sea, threatening the loss of their homes and boat. But the Assets Recovery Agency, using powers designed to recover money from drug dealers, also froze all their assets. To pay the fines, the McBrides tried to borrow against their assets. Now, for this effort to pay the fines, Liverpool Crown Court has sentenced the two men to two and three months in gaol for “contempt of court”.
Blown away
The Climate Change Secretary, Ed Miliband, timed his jibe impeccably last week when he said that opposing wind farms is as “socially unacceptable” as “not wearing a seatbelt”. Britain’s largest windfarm companies are pulling out of wind as fast as they can. Despite 100 per cent subsidies, the credit crunch and technical problems spell an end to Gordon Brown’s £100 billion dream of meeting our EU target to derive 35 per cent of our electricity from “renewables” by 2020.
Meanwhile the Government gives the go-ahead for three new 1,000 megawatt gas-fired power stations in Wales. Each of them will generate more than the combined average output (700 megawatts) of all the 2,400 wind turbines so far built. The days of the “great wind fantasy” will soon be over.
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
:haha:
This principle would be correct were it not for the fact that a majority of ice is not submerged within the sea; it's on raised shelves directly above the sea. |
thankyou, saved me the time to correct the partisan hack. i mean honestly :rolleyes: |
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