Originally posted by Jasperovitsj
Why is he 'mad' (I'd say he's just annoyed)?
Probably because:
A. You overly generalize the TA crowd into a single, hiveminded bunch of musical nitwits that plots against certain producers/dj's/musical styles, something you obviously are way above.
B. Every single discussion with you follows the same pattern, which is mainly about 'You are wrong and I am right', 'Your arguments and definitions are weak and flawed, mine are not, never ever', 'You cannot listen to music properly and analyze it, only I can', and so on, ultimately resulting in a semantic quote-requote-struggle in which your self-declared superiority is never really a question - at least not to yourself.
C. You always have to casually mention on the side that you are a producer yourself, an artist even, as if that somehow makes you more credible or your opinions more valued than the ones of those you are discussing with. Not that anyone around here has ever heard anything you produced, but still. You must be the right person in the right place to teach everyone around here a musical lesson.
Really, nobody would be mad if you just offered an alternate view, why would they? It's pushing that view upon everyone and insisting it is the only right one that is a step (or two) too far. Sure, debating and discussing music is fun, and TA isn't shy of that. But with you there's never really a discussion going on, now is there? You might disguise it as one, but in the end it's just you trying to convince others why your vision is the only right and superior one, and why everyone else is so damn stupid. And the irony is that you actually make some valid points once in a while, they just get overshadowed by your massive dick.
Oh, and I bet the response to this post will be exactly like what it is all about.
ABC = :haha:
fixed. Everything else, is rather throwaway towards the discussion to fix. But i'll address it. What am I pushing on people? How is discussing music pushing something on someone? lol. I mean what are you getting out of this forum if you are'nt actually discussing music. Doesnt jacking eachother off in virtually every thread get boring? You made a group of online friends who seem to have quite a few similar tastes. That is static.
It seems that some people can't even have a debate/discussion without crying. If you step outside of TA for a minute, yes quite a few people would look at the replies to this release and wonder what the you guys are smoking. Do you have any sort of vision? Over the Moon is dancefloor bomb material as they come. So of course I came with a different view, which lead to dialogue, and then me pointing out as an observer of a rather blatant hive mind. Whilst calling someone out on their reasoning for their vague opinion that does'nt even hold up at any level in music critique. So im the bad guy cause I can actually discuss music with people, and I should avoid discussion because you and friends can't hang with it? Its teh abrasive for my soft skinssszs.
By the way, if you read the thread, I didnt question anyone's opinion first, someone told me my opinion is wrong, and why am I reposting the track, which I think is great. So thats when I said ok if i'm wrong about this track, then i'd like to hear why you think your view about this piece of music is right, and all I got is some bull vague reasoning that could be applied to any track, including their own favorites. And then here comes one of the foot soldiers (you) with oversized helmet sliding off to paint a new picture a save the day.
:stongue:
david.michael
quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
I dont think im using much energy defending the music, I think the music does defend itself fairly well. This track is going to do well regardless of the hate its getting from the uber elite small hivemind group that does not like it. If you guys dont know by now, you guys probably share the opinion of maybe 1% of people who listen to this music.
So your argument is that people dislike the music because of their elitist, hive-minds... and then in the next line you try to further that argument by making the point that 99% of the people into EDM would like this? Seems to be a bit counter-productive as far as arguments go.
Kismet7
quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
So your argument is that people dislike the music because of their elitist, hive-minds... and then in the next line you try to further that argument by making the point that 99% of the people into EDM would like this? Seems to be a bit counter-productive as far as arguments go.
No. I made that statement to give value to the hiveminded opinions of the small yet vocal hiveminds that develop here. The 99% out in the real world, who likely disagree and who likely enjoy this track and quite a few tracks that arent liked here, are not following a hivemind at all. How could they? How do you develop a hivemind on a dancefloor that a track like this would be played on? Reaction would come naturally, and be caused by the music. In a hivemind, this is not the case. One lemming is following another lemming it seems. So its ing weird that the same group have the same "bland" "boring" opinion of a track that is quite the polar opposite to that description according to what im hearing, quite a few people outside of TA are haring, and im sure the dancefloors as well, and it being the same characters all the time, tis blatant.
The dancefloors objectively crush le hivemind.
The track is safely, nothing short of a dancefloor caver, according to the dancefloor of course.
TA Hivemind : 0 Dancfloor : 1
elFreak
another dance floor bomb for you.
kismet/mark anothony/doombot = same poster.
DOOMBOT
david.michael
quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
The dancefloors objectively crush le hivemind.
Just because my local club is packed full and bouncing during a T-pain or Britney track doesn't mean that I should like it, think it has any musical value, or shun anything else.
Nor should I be forced to dislike any tracks for the same reason.
Summary: I like what I like because I like it.
woscar
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Originally posted by Kismet7
The Irony...
Isnt that your sad purpose in life since 2004 and at the moment? Say it isnt lol.
Im overanalyzing music on a music forum? What the are you doing here then, besides wasting your life away? Have you asked yourself that burning question? At least im putting this forum to its proper use, you should try it.
And its pretty sad that you cant stomach analysis.
I've never seen a troll try this hard, I'll give you that...
coroknight
Even though I think this release is "meh" I still bought it because I want to support Danny Howells.
BTW everyone here is wrong and I'm right...cocks
Nostalgic
Amazing thread guys. Oh, and one parting note for Clovis, elfreak, woscar, enydo, or any other minimal/techno hipster muppet.
