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Ghost Raver
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Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
I don't know what gets people to do this. I read a post on a forum that mentioned that people who grow up very secluded end up developing a fascination in these types of online media; I don't remember why.
My parents did shelter me a lot as a child, so much as that I ended up having to buy a Playstation2, sneak it into the house, and set it up/tear it down while my parents were away shopping(this was when I was 16 and loved racing games).

Interesting post. I never sneaked out, or really needed it that much, cause I was always the nice kid, the one who doesn't complain when the only ing way to see my schoolmates and go out together with them is on our ing yard.
dj_alfi
i read the wiki, and i have little enough faith in humanity as it is, to be watching like that. i ing hope they are killed in jail.

i believe that noone has the right to end another humans life, unless they are people who are clearly evil. mass murderers, gingers, deli owners etc.
Meat187
Every day I'm more inclined to believe that people are not basically good but purely evil.
Halcyon+On+On
These disgusting, worthless s should be locked away and put to hard labour for the rest of their pathetic existences in only the most vile, putrescent den of rapists, murders, and cutthroat swindlers responsible for some of those most despicable acts of mass violence in history:



Forever!
Halcyon+On+On
quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
Every day I'm more inclined to believe that people are not basically god but purely evil.


Humans are animals and animals merely are what they are. If anything, "good" is the deception, the fabrication, the lie; generosity, tolerance, magnanimity, selflessness - these are all just devices people use to get what they want, not unlike a hammer at all. Avarice is both the default as well as the only self-evident "right" that cannot be mistaken with the politics of living as an imperatively social organism.
Meat187
Homo homini Cthulhu.
Halcyon+On+On
IA IA
Meat187
I see one problem when making the comparison with animals. I'm not aware of animals committing similar acts of brutality against their own kind or their prey. They are driven by instinct and do what from their point of view is essential for their survival (to the best of my knowledge of animal behaviour, maybe I can be proven wrong). With humans I feel that they're driven by something darker, more powerful and maleficent than instinct. As I said: "Homo homini Cthulhu!"
Omega_M
Jesus Christ, it's impossible to watch this video for more than a few seconds. initially it's kinda grainy, so you don't get to see the graphic details even as the guy's hitting the victim with something yellow in his hand. And then the camera zooms in on the tortured face as the guy starts hitting again....I just had to close the tab at that point.
Halcyon+On+On
quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
I see one problem when making the comparison with animals. I'm not aware of animals committing similar acts of brutality against their own kind or their prey. They are driven by instinct and do what from their point of view is essential for their survival (to the best of my knowledge of animal behaviour, maybe I can be proven wrong). With humans I feel that they're driven by something darker, more powerful and maleficent than instinct. As I said: "Homo homini Cthulhu!"


You've never had a cat who caught mice and birds for you, only to toy with them as they writhe around dying? You've never read about insects who intentionally destroy the reproductive tract of their mates so that no other males can compete? What of cuttlefish breeding habits or tribal warfare amongst chimps?

True, humans are different from the rest of the creatures we know in a scant few, complex (by our lack of comparison) traits, and as such, the methods by which we define "survival" are going to be equally as complex reflections of our psyche, but I believe the essence to be similar, if not the same.

Though I do think you are right to believe humans are impelled by something central and sinister, different from the animalistic impulse to preserve oneself by violence. This is a pretty well-known and interesting experiment that I think appropriately demonstrates a lot of the manifestations of personal violence we suppose to be unique and sickly...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

Not to insinuate that serial killers aren't "sick" or anything, but murder and brutality are merely human potential manifested.

:gsmile:

Nrg2Nfinit
alot of animals will also resort to eating their young in times of hunger.

male lions go around killing the previous pride leaders offspring from the females that they chose to mate with to avoid competition.

Prarie dogs kill their own kin as a method of fitness selection.


The argument here is that this helps towards survival of the species, or survival of the best genes (which in turn helps the species).


I somewhat agree with halcyon, but it seems that human conciousness is more complex then the simple linear thought of most animals.

Humans with a weak mind can be driven to do almost anything and see justification behind it. Even if, in hindsight, the justification seems absolutely meritless.
Omega_M
It is one of those statistically possible behaviors that you will find, given a pool of brains which are capable of behaving in all sorts of ways. I'd assume a Gaussian distribution, with most population centered around the median, which I'd call "normal behavior". As normal as defined by a "cultured" society. All loose definitions ofcourse. Errant behaviors exhibited by a small population are to be expected on the fringe ends of the bell curve.
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