Originally posted by woscar
You brag about having superior reasoning and "vision" than most all of us yet your "arguments" are completely devoid of reason or vision. Arguing that a track's quality is directly proportional to the amount of people that like it and "go wild" to it is as absurd as it gets.
Would you say that this is an amazing track because there are more than 5,000 people going wild to it?
Did I say 5000 people? Pffft! Try a whole arena...
The dancefloor reaction is one of many facets to what makes a great track, and quite an important one. Never said it was the only one. In the 'On the Moon' argument case, the dancefloor reaction video directly contradicted Mrjive's assessment of the track, which is what I used it for. And if you read the thread, I don't fall back solely on the video, I brought the dancefloor caving evidence in much later. Do I need to preface everything for you?
Besides, a track that does great things for the dancefloor, is indeed a great track for that purpose, are you trying to prove otherwise?
Kismet7
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Your original statement was "crowds by the hundreds of thousands disagree," and I responded that crowds of millions disagree with my opinion of Soulja Boy, but that means nothing to me. Ultimately both DH and Soulja Boy have become popular by making or playing music that resonates with people. But the fact that something is liked by a bunch of people has no bearing on whether I think it's any good, nor does it demonstrate that I have "poor reasoning" (LOL) if I don't like a tune that happened to rock a dance floor somewhere.
Anyway, can you just state your point plainly now?
Yah because, you seem to believe Danny Howells and Soulja Boy gain their crowds the same way. There is quite a difference between the music and how crowds are formed between the two. The genre Soulja Boy belongs to is kinda shoved down peoples throats through about 1,000 outlets and mechanisms, while Danny Howells crowd is pulled it mostly on the shoulders of the music, which again makes your reasoning and argument, poor as usual.
woscar
Just stirring the some more, considering how much you hate "Minimal".
MrJiveBoJingles
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Originally posted by Kismet7
In the 'On the Moon' argument case, the dancefloor reaction video directly contradicted Mrjive's assessment of the track, which is what I used it for.
Funny, I don't ever remember saying that the track couldn't rock a dance floor. One component of "poor reasoning" is basing your argument on stuff people never said, you know.
;)
And fine, you don't like the Soulja Boy example? Take Filo & Perry's "Anthem" instead. Not shoved down people's throats through media outlets, immensely popular on dance floors, yet it's still chintzy garbage. Better now? Is "Anthem" a brilliant piece of music simply by virtue of getting a nice reaction?
DuBam
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Originally posted by Kismet7
Anyone can create a mix. Making a mix is...easy.
I made it quite clear that I won't take your word for it.
However 'fundamental' your reasoning was.
MrJiveBoJingles
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Originally posted by Kismet7
Anyone can create a mix. Making a mix is...easy.
If it's so darn easy, why not just whip one up in a day and give everyone a practical demonstration of your brilliant judgment of grooves and melodies that get the floors excited and dancing?
;)
Kismet7
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Originally posted by woscar
Just stirring the some more, considering how much you hate "Minimal".
Some might hear this track, might think it sucks through a Beatport sample, but the dancefloors would disagree, thus proving the lack of vision on behalf the persons that often give token responses here. Which is why I usually defend tracks that I think will sound good on a dancefloor or do great things for a dancefloor, with that context.
hmmm Is that track really minimal? I don't hate minimal, I just don't enjoy it as much as other genres that have more melody and musicality.
woscar
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Originally posted by Kismet7
Some might hear this track, might think it sucks through a Beatport sample, but the dancefloors would disagree, thus proving the lack of vision on behalf the persons that often give token responses here. Which is why I usually defend tracks that I think will sound good on a dancefloor or do great things for a dancefloor, with that context.
hmmm Is that track really minimal? I don't hate minimal, I just don't enjoy it as much as other genres that have more melody and musicality.
So tracks can also work wonders on a dancefloor? Interesting...
Anyways, life is too ing short to spend more time arguing with a thick twat like you.
Kismet7
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Originally posted by woscar
So tracks can also work wonders on a dancefloor? Interesting...
Anyways, life is too ing short to spend more time arguing with a thick twat like you.
Whose to say music is if it is moving dancefloors? Like i've said in the past, without context and reasoning, opinions become questionable. Look at the Kiki - Good Voodoo thread, some people in there were actually trying to question the quality and value of that track. I was waiting for someone to compare it to classical music... :stongue:
Jasperovitsj
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
If it's so darn easy, why not just whip one up in a day and give everyone a practical demonstration of your brilliant judgment of grooves and melodies that get the floors excited and dancing?
;)
Yes please. It's the least you could do if it's hardly any effort, and if anything, it could finally shut up all the hiveminded pricks and henchmen here you are so vicariously debating with. A win-win situation, no?
notelfreak
"An' here I go again on my own
Goin' down the only road I've ever known
Like a drifter I was born to walk alone"
notelfreak
ps kismet might be a bit of a tard, but the "why don't i see you do better" argument...sheesh really?