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The Curious Case of Angelina Jolie's Father (pg. 3)
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| Shakka |
Media or not, that Michael Moore fella was a helluva guy. I fail to see how comments made by someone like Jon Voigt are any more or less spiteful or meaningful that that fat bucket of lard, whatever extreme they come from. Unless you want to start getting into moral equivalence debates...
I'm more concerned that PETA is going to go after Obama given the brutal nature with which he killed that innocent fly in his interview with John Harwood today. I mean did you see the ferocity and velocity with which Obama ruthlessly ended that poor insect's life? Harsh man...harsh. |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
Media or not, that Michael Moore fella was a helluva guy. I fail to see how comments made by someone like Jon Voigt are any more or less spiteful or meaningful that that fat bucket of lard, whatever extreme they come from. Unless you want to start getting into moral equivalence debates...
I'm more concerned that PETA is going to go after Obama given the brutal nature with which he killed that innocent fly in his interview with John Harwood today. I mean did you see the ferocity and velocity with which Obama ruthlessly ended that poor insect's life? Harsh man...harsh. |
As stupid as I think Michael Moore is, has he ever said anything this ing ridiculous about the president?
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...-false-prophet/
The vitriol and conjecture in Voights speech is absolutely astounding. |
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| HardTranceProd |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
Media or not, that Michael Moore fella was a helluva guy. I fail to see how comments made by someone like Jon Voigt are any more or less spiteful or meaningful that that fat bucket of lard, whatever extreme they come from. Unless you want to start getting into moral equivalence debates...
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Well the point of the post wasn't so much the spitefulness to which everyone is entitled. It rather had to do with the irony of how leftist Hollywood and politics intersect. |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
As stupid as I think Michael Moore is, has he ever said anything this ing ridiculous about the president?
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Yes. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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Should such an ignorant people lead the world? How did it come to this in the first place? 82 percent of us don't even have a passport! Just a handful can speak a language other than English. |
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White people scare the crap out of me. … I have never been attacked by a black person, never been evicted by a black person, never had my security deposit ripped off by a black landlord, never had a black landlord … never been pulled over by a black cop, never been sold a lemon by a black car salesman, never seen a black car salesman, never had a black person deny me a bank loan, never had a black person bury my movie, and I've never heard a black person say, 'We're going to eliminate ten thousand jobs here - have a nice day!' |
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We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elects a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons. |
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These bastards who run our country are a bunch of conniving, thieving, smug pricks who need to be brought down and removed and replaced with a whole new system that we control. |
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“The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not `insurgents` or `terrorists` or `The Enemy.` They are the revolution, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow - and they will win.” |
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“I would like to apologize for referring to George W. Bush as a deserter. What I meant to say is that George W. Bush is a deserter, an election thief, a drunk driver, a WMD liar, and a functional illiterate. And he poops his pants” |
Or I dunno, Bill Maher for instance.
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I think flying planes into a building was a faith-based initiative. I think religion is a neurological disorder. |
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The Clinton White House today said they would start to give national security and intelligence briefings to George Bush. I don't know how well this is working out. Today after the first one Bush said, 'I've got one question: What color is the red phone?' |
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“The Dalai Lama visited the White House and told the President that he could teach him to find a higher state of consciousness. Then after talking to Bush for a few minutes, he said, "You know what? Let's just grab lunch."” |
| quote: | | “Jim Bakker spells his name with two k's because three would be too obvious.” |
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“George Bush says, 'Gore's book needs a lot of explaining.' Of course, Bush says that about every book.” |
But oh no, ZOMG, Jon Voigt called the Messiah a false prophet! What are we to do about this outrageous use of free speech! Somebody call the Thought Police!!!
This happens on both sides but suddenly Frank Rich writes an editorial and the Left acts as if they have been above the fray for the last 8 years (let alone the last 208 years)? Yes, Obama can do no wrong, just like George Bush could do no right...other than appoint Ben Bernanke, arguably the most powerful man in the world. I honestly can't believe this is getting so much attention. |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
Well the point of the post wasn't so much the spitefulness to which everyone is entitled. It rather had to do with the irony of how leftist Hollywood and politics intersect. |
I never knew that much about Jon Voigt and politics. Until he spoke at the RNC last year, I never even knew he aligned himself with the right, especially in light of Brangelina being his daughter. I certainly don't consider him a prominent figurehead for the right, unless you just want to point him out as a well known actor who happens to have become more outspoken and perhaps feels he has the notoriety to not fear going against the leftward leaning grain of Hollywood. Either way, he's just another person out there with an opinion. Opinions are like s--everybody's got one. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
But oh no, ZOMG, Jon Voigt called the Messiah a false prophet! What are we to do about this outrageous use of free speech! Somebody call the Thought Police!!! |
I don't think anybody aside from the OP and Frank Rich really cares what Jon Voight says, though the setting was slightly unsettling (no pun intended). Same goes for Bill Maher. Celebrities aren't news, hackneyed or not.
| quote: | | I honestly can't believe this is getting so much attention. |
Me either. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
Absolutely hysterical coming from someone who quotes Rush Limbaugh in their signature.
What deep seeded hatred exactly is the democratic party pushing right now? |
if you listen to Olbermann, Chris Matthews, Krugman's piece I mentioned that you must not have read, Michael Moore, all the bitter spiteful comedians-turned-political-experts... etc. I'm not just talking about elected officials. The that gets thrown at the GOP, Bush, and the republican party in general is a hell of a lot worse. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
if you listen to Olbermann, Chris Matthews, Krugman's piece I mentioned that you must not have read, Michael Moore, all the bitter spiteful comedians-turned-political-experts... etc. I'm not just talking about elected officials. The that gets thrown at the GOP, Bush, and the republican party in general is a hell of a lot worse. |
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| quote: | A political appointee to the Staten Island Community Education Council forwarded a racist e-mail to dozens of people, angering officials with the local NAACP.
Salvatore Ballarino admitted sending an e-mail featuring photos from the last presidential debate with voice balloons added to suggest a conversation laden with racist jokes.
"It was a political cartoon," Ballarino said. "It was a joke, and I treated it as such."
In the e-mail, Sen. John McCain is shown telling then-candidate Barack Obama that he has black people in his family tree, adding, "If I recall, they're still hanging there."
In another exchange, McCain asks Obama the difference between a black man and a picnic table, before offering that "a picnic table can support a family."
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Mike Green (R-SC) on Twitter: "JUST HEARD OBAMA IS GOING TO IMPOSE A 40% TAX ON ASPIRIN BECAUSE IT'S WHITE AND IT WORKS."
| quote: | Racist e-mails reveal ugly side of Republicanism
Tom Baldwin and Matt Spencein
Washington
An e-mail sent by a Republican aide, entitled Historical Keepsake Photo, features portraits of the first 43 American presidents in a variety of dignified and statesmanlike poses. The succession of white faces, however, comes to an abrupt halt in the final and 44th panel which displays just a pair of cartoon eyeballs set against an entirely dark background.
Little more than six months since the US elected its first black president and Barack Obama declared “change has come to America”, hopes that the country is finally overcoming a racist past are being tempered by evidence that parts of it — sections of the Republican Party in particular — remain aghast at the notion of a black First Family.
While most of the country shifted towards Democrats in November, a striking swath, stretching from rural western Pennsylvania, extending southwest through Appalachia and encompassing most of Arkansas, Oklahoma and Louisiana, swung against Mr Obama. Sherri Goforth, who works as a legislative assistant for the Republican leadership in the Tennessee state senate, was given a written reprimand this week but allowed to keep her job after being identified as having sent out the e-mail with the presidential portraits.
Asked if she understood that the depiction of Mr Obama was offensive, Ms Goforth was quoted as saying she regretted sending it to the wrong e-mail list. “I inadvertently hit the wrong button,” she said. “I’m very sick about it and it’s one of those things I can’t change or take back.”
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Nor was this the only such instance in recent weeks. The internet is providing glimpses of an unreconstructed underbelly of America, which, in turn, is being seized upon and presented in vivid detail by liberal websites such as Wonkette or the Daily Kos.
Earlier this month Diann Jones, a vice-chairman of the Collin County Republican Party in Texas, apologised for an e-mail that denounced plans for a tax on guns as “another terrific idea from the black house and its minions”. In February, Dean Grose, the mayor of Los Alamitos in California, sent an e-mail to a black businesswoman, depicting the White House lawn planted with watermelons. Mr Grose said he had not meant to cause offence and that he was unaware of the stereotype that the African-American diet consisted of watermelon or fried chicken.
Carol Carter, a member of Florida’s state Republican committee, mused in an e-mail to colleagues in January on black people’s ability to travel to Mr Obama’s inauguration when so many had drowned in Hurricane Katrina. “I’m confused,” she said. “How can 2,000,000 blacks get into Washington, DC in one day in sub zero temps when 200,000 couldn’t get out of New Orleans in 85 degree temps with four days notice?” She was forced to resign but not before begging readers of the e-mail to show they had a “sense of humour”. The local Republican executive declared that Ms Carter “doesn’t have a racist bone in her body”.
The Republican Party earlier this year elected Michael Steele as its first black National Committee chairman . He has acknowledged, however, that the party’s difficulties with ethnic minority votes will not be solved easily because too many officials “don’t give a damn”. To them, he said, “outreach means let’s throw a cocktail party, find some black folks and Hispanics and women, wrap our arms around them — ‘See, look at us’. And then we go back to the same old, same old.”
One of his opponents during the contest was Chip Saltsman, the former Tennessee Republican chairman who sent friends a Christmas gift of songs by the satirist Paul Shanklin, including the track: “Barack the Magic Negro”. |
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/ne...icle6515145.ece
You really want to get into this pissing match? |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Actually, I do. Prior to 2003, Bush was as widely heralded by the media as Obama. Coverage typically shadows public opinion - when a president is popular, they're more likely to receive positive coverage. I don't see anything implicitly nefarious in that, especially since it does cut both ways. Are you inferring that right after 9/11 you saw legions of reporters filing negative stories about Bush? If anything, we saw the talking heads repeat the adage that it was all Clinton's fault for not taking bin Laden seriously - it wasn't until the debacle of the lead-up to Iraq that people started to seriously question Bush's leadership skills. |
Again- unless you were in a coma from 2003-2008, you'd know that vile, unspeakable things were constantly lobbed at Bush. He was pained as a stupid redneck too dumb to read a sentence, with a thrist for bloodlust. A president has never been treated so horribly. Besides, it didn't even start in 2003... from the day he was elected the hate began, being accused of stealing the election. Right after 9/11 the country came together, definitely. BUt that didn't last long. There's a major difference between "questioning one's leadership skills" and writing books and making movies about assassinating a sitting president. From the Pew reporting data:
As he marks his 100th day in office, President Barack Obama has enjoyed substantially more positive media coverage than either Bill Clinton or George Bush during their first months in the White House, according to a new study of press coverage.
Overall, roughly four out of ten stories, editorials and op ed columns about Obama have been clearly positive in tone, compared with 22% for Bush and 27% for Clinton in the same mix of seven national media outlets during the same first two months in office, according to a study by the Pew Research Center’s Project for Excellence in Journalism.
| quote: | As he marks his 100th day in office, President Barack Obama has enjoyed substantially more positive media coverage than either Bill Clinton or George Bush during their first months in the White House, according to a new study of press coverage.
Overall, roughly four out of ten stories, editorials and op ed columns about Obama have been clearly positive in tone, compared with 22% for Bush and 27% for Clinton in the same mix of seven national media outlets during the same first two months in office, according to a study by the Pew Research Center’s Project for Excellence in Journalism.
The study found positive stories about Obama have outweighed negative by two-to-one (42% vs. 20%) while 38% of stories have been neutral or mixed. |
[QUOTR] First of all, I don't trust Drudge. And second of all, how is this any different than a press conference? Bush didn't like holding those; Obama clearly does.
Are you saying that ABC should say no to a potential monopoly on viewers that evening, all in the pursuit of the fairness doctrine? I thought you hated that. You have me so confused as to where you actually stand on things. [/QUOTE]
Whether you trust Drudge or not, it's happening and ABC news specifically said they reject the idea of having opposing viewpoints of the president's policies mentioned... those bipartisan viewpoints that Obama said he'd call for. Pure bias. Imagine a Republican Congress introducing a bill to repeal Social Security and Fox News running a special on it live from inside RNC headquarters.
Hell, even John Steward was ripping NBC media for their shameful ass kissing to the white house!
Oh, and Opus... lol... Media Matters is a George Soros funded, purposeful anti-GOP websites with absolute bias. You can't compare that with Newsbusters who has no stake in anything, and reports bias in the media from wherever it originates.
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Mike Green (R-SC) on Twitter: "JUST HEARD OBAMA IS GOING TO IMPOSE A 40% TAX ON ASPIRIN BECAUSE IT'S WHITE AND IT WORKS."
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He forgot to mention the part about having to pick cotton to get to them.;) |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
Again- unless you were in a coma from 2003-2008, |
Ermmm... you specifically said "at the same time in Bush's presidency. Why do you keep moving the goalposts?
| quote: | | A president has never been treated so horribly. |
If you say so. I'm sure Andrew Johnson or Herbert Hoover or Jimmy Carter would would disagree with you.
| quote: | | from the day he was elected the hate began, being accused of stealing the election. |
By the media? Are you serious with this ?
| quote: | | There's a major difference between "questioning one's leadership skills" and writing books and making movies about assassinating a sitting president. |
What?
From the Pew reporting data:
| quote: | As he marks his 100th day in office, President Barack Obama has enjoyed substantially more positive media coverage than either Bill Clinton or George Bush during their first months in the White House, according to a new study of press coverage.
Overall, roughly four out of ten stories, editorials and op ed columns about Obama have been clearly positive in tone, compared with 22% for Bush and 27% for Clinton in the same mix of seven national media outlets during the same first two months in office, according to a study by the Pew Research Center�s Project for Excellence in Journalism. |
Right. Same thing you said before. I'll pose the same question: how the hell does the media covering Obama more in the first 100 days (during a slight political and economic crisis) than Bill Clinton indicative of a liberal bias? It's like you're providing counter-evidence as evidence...
| quote: | | Whether you trust Drudge or not, it's happening and ABC news specifically said they reject the idea of having opposing viewpoints of the president's policies mentioned... those bipartisan viewpoints that Obama said he'd call for. Pure bias. |
So you ARE in favor of the Fairness Doctrine!
| quote: | | Imagine a Republican Congress introducing a bill to repeal Social Security and Fox News running a special on it live from inside RNC headquarters. |
Um, that actually happens, and not just on Fox. Usually not from the RNC though - usually from the Republican anteroom in the Capitol. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
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Mike Green (R-SC) on Twitter: "JUST HEARD OBAMA IS GOING TO IMPOSE A 40% TAX ON ASPIRIN BECAUSE IT'S WHITE AND IT WORKS."
You really want to get into this pissing match? |
I saw that earlier... about the email with racist photo from Diane Black's staffer. Definitely disgraceful. I'm not saying there aren't any racist republicans. And I'm not saying there aren't any recist democrats. But as a matter of strategy, the race card gets played with regularity by the Democrats, and that's not arguable. Even Clinton got a taste of it during Hillary's primary!
That point about the "barak the magic negro" thing in the article is so stupid. If anyone cared to read the context of it, aside from the fact that a black LA Times reporter coined it, they'd understand it wasn't a racist thing but a parody of Al Sharpton singing in tones of jealousy over Barak. Now, that bonehead republican who put it on the CD probably shouldn't have done it... but it was a CD of 2o Paul Shanlkin parody songs, that being one of them. Nevertheless, for all the haters, this is the real explanation of Barak the Magic Negro:
| quote: | RUSH: Well, let me tell you about the roots of this. There was a columnist in the Los Angeles Times named David Ehrenstein, and on Monday, he wrote a piece about Barack is the "magic negro." He claimed that there is, in the black culture, this term "magic negro." His point in this column was that Barack Obama is not authentic. He hasn't been down for the struggle. Plus he's not been around long enough for people to know what he actually stands for substance-wise, and so white people who are supporting Barack are simply doing so to assuage their white guilt over the transgressions in the past in this country, such as slavery and so forth. So his theory is that Barack coming along, he's black and that's all that matters. Nobody cares what he stands for. Nobody knows what he stands for.
It was a column, essentially, accusing white people supporting Obama of being racist because they don't care what he stands for and don't care what he's going to do. The fact that he's black is enough for them, to make them not feel guilty as long as they say they support him, and that was the definition of "magic negro." Now, on this program, we made it a big point to point out that it was -- and this columnist is black, by the way, David Ehrenstein is black, and he used the term, which is why it says so in the lyric line of the song. So we're just highlighting what the left says. I believe they're the true racists. I believe they're the ones that look at people and notice whatever is different about them from white liberals. Either they're black or they're gay or they're Hispanic or whatever. They immediately group people, and most of them happen to be victims. Yet we conservatives are the ones, Uriah, who get tarred and feathered with these allegations.
CALLER: Yes, sir.
RUSH: So this song is to illustrate that point.
CALLER: Okay. That's the first time I've actually ever heard the term "magic negro."
RUSH: Well, me, too. I never heard of it, but this guy says it's out there. It's part of black folklore.
CALLER: Okay. Yeah, so that was my question there. You know, I feel like as a country that we should definitely be propelling forward, and this generation, and bringing light to the rest of this world.
RUSH: Well, I can tell you think the term negro is inappropriate, that it's old hat and shouldn't be used, that it's divisive and this sort of thing, and you may have a point, but remember what we do on this program. We illustrate absurdity by being absurd, and the other element of this is that Sharpton has been quoted in the New York Post as being jealous that Obama is getting all this support as a black presidential candidate. Remember, Joe Biden said, "Hey, we got the first clean, articulate, intelligent black guy running for president." How do you think this makes Sharpton feel? He's run for president twice. How do you think it's going to make the Reverend Jackson feel? So the story was that there's a little jealousy out there. So, these two things just fit together. It was like a harmonic convergence here on this, Uriah. Now that you know the context and the details, let's listen together to Al Sharpton and "Barack the Magic Negro." |
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