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Which era would you like to live in? (pg. 8)
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I really must insist. :)
And what makes you think we truly have a firm understanding of how people lived in the past? Anthropology has always struggled to connect the artifacts of civilization with the folkways of a given time, and has surmised - at best - mere estimates as to what it was like to live in a certain time and place. Research conducted on current ethnic groups that have preserved otherwise "savage" traditions is threadbare. Do not forget that history is largely written by the elite and educated - a gross and often misrepresentative minority, I assure you. So no, I don't think anyone is in a good position to judge the "morality" or lifestyles of people living in past-times; those experiences are utterly irretrievable and we can but guess as to their extent.
And "core needs" sounds like a buzzword you use to sell geriatric people timeshares.
Didn't you ever read Miner's Body Ritual Among The Nacirema?! |
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| squirrelly |
| Just where did I say we have a "firm" understanding? If you're implying that it's impossible to know what the lifestyles of individuals were in the 1900's I'd have to say you're incorrect due to the data that was collected by living individuals and data collected by now-passed individuals prior to their death. In no way, shape, or form did I imply that we have a "firm" understanding of ANYTHING B.C. or in the 1700's, etc. I was merely stating that most people are going to go with what they "know" (I put "know" in "" marks so you can get a "firm" understanding that when I say "know" I mean "what they THINK they know based off of history books, educational programs, etc") when they choose and era they would have liked to live in. The future hold the unknown, so for MOST people they are not going to respond with futuristic times based on the idea that they have no idea if they would LIKE to live in it (as the thread asks). |
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I can tell this is a strain on you, so let me break it down...
| quote: | Originally posted by squirrelly
Usually, when people answer this question - they think about the morals that they have and the type of lifestyle they prefer, thus choosing the era that most corresponds to their core needs. |
What does somebody's personal "morality" have to do with what time they would choose to live in, given a choice? That is an actual question because I want your input, however snarky I can tell it's going to be. What 'needs' are to be met within a certain timeframe? You mean like really devout Catholics would obviously want to live in a Catholic-controlled Europe? Why would that be necessarily true?
| quote: | | Since there is plenty of information about the lifestyles of individuals in the past |
firm. understanding.
| quote: | | people are able to have something to reference to, which gives them a solid understanding |
firm. understanding. Am I getting through to you? |
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| squirrelly |
So are you implying that we have no idea what the life was like for people 50 yeas ago? Really?
And I love how you pick apart my paragraph, and omit the fact that I was saying we have a more solid understanding of the past 100 years but not so much hundreds and hundreds of years ago. :stongue: Very nice ;) Go ahead and keeping quoting snippets vs entire sentences - that's fine, whatever makes you feel like your "argument" is more valid.
Also, go ahead and twist my paragraphs into implying that I meant humanity as a whole, vs the members of an internet forum - oh wait, you already did that! Silly me! :p
You know exactly what I'm referring to. If someone finds themselves more alongside a hippy (and YES, the MORALS of a hippy - which are completely different than the MORALS of a woman, say, in the 1920s. Oh, and let me break it down for you: Women in the 1920s had finally gotten the right to vote and started attending schools and being "bolder" if they could [shorter skirts, etc]; although women were working, they generally gave up "work" when they got married, whereas feminism really took a hardcore place in the 1970s) they are going to more or less choose an era where hippies were popular (late 60s into the 70s) whereas if someone finds themselves (we'll say a woman to keep things simple since all of this is too complicated for you) more in the traditional role of a woman, they would generally say an earlier "era". |
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And by your logic, we can deduct that we "know" more about what life will be like in the future, correct?
Let me go hop in my transporter jet... Oh wait, we're not traveling by flying cars like what had been assumed we would by the time 2000 came around? Hmmm........ fancy that :gsmile: |
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| Meat187 |
| Domesticated, would you please delete this thread for Squirrelly? |
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| secked |
| quote: | Originally posted by squirrelly
So are you implying that we have no idea what the life was like for people 50 yeas ago? Really? |
LOL.
| quote: | | And I love how you pick apart my paragraph, and omit the fact that I was saying we have a more solid understanding of the past 100 years but not so much hundreds and hundreds of years ago. :stongue: Very nice ;) Go ahead and keeping quoting snippets vs entire sentences - that's fine, whatever makes you feel like your "argument" is more valid. |
How rude of you to blame me for your very own omissions.
| quote: | Also, go ahead and twist my paragraphs into implying that I meant humanity as a whole, vs the members of an internet forum - oh wait, you already did that! Silly me! :p
You know exactly what I'm referring to. If someone finds themselves more alongside a hippy (and YES, the MORALS of a hippy - which are completely different than the MORALS of a woman, say, in the 1920s. Oh, and let me break it down for you: Women in the 1920s had finally gotten the right to vote and started attending schools and being "bolder" if they could [shorter skirts, etc]; although women were working, they generally gave up "work" when they got married, whereas feminism really took a hardcore place in the 1970s) they are going to more or less choose an era where hippies were popular (late 60s into the 70s) whereas if someone finds themselves (we'll say a woman to keep things simple since all of this is too complicated for you) more in the traditional role of a woman, they would generally say an earlier "era". |
Good grief. What a mess you are. |
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| squirrelly |
:stongue:
You make me laugh. :gsmile: |
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| secked |
| I must say, that is a good defense mechanism for somebody like yourself. |
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| squirrelly |
| I must say, saying that I'm a "mess" versus providing an actual response, is a great defense mechanism for somebody like yourself :gsmile: |
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| secked |
| You're going to have to come up with something for me to actually respond to first, rather than submitting some muddled wall of text that says almost nothing whatsoever in some sort of condescending attempt to enlighten me about the relevance of women's suffrage. |
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| KilldaDJ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
You have the worst avatar on this entire forum. |
The lack of wit and originality of your post bores the entire forum. GTFO |
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