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UFC 100 - Saturday, July 11th (pg. 5)
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| Slylee |
| quote: | Originally posted by iammesol
No, it's martial arts that finally isn't pansy. It's spiritual, honorable, and requires a hell of a lot more confidence and motivation than a judo hugging competition.
Street brawl-esque beatdowns are frowned upon by the (true) fans and the administration who run it. Watch this fight to see a true battle between two guys who absolutely love what they're doing. They high five each other DURING THE FIGHT. Just brilliant.
Sorry Banora! TA doesn't tell me when I have a new message anymore. :( |
it's not brilliant or honorable lol
marital arts is about self defense and discipline. ask any sensei...they will do anything to avoid a fight.
don't even go there with me. my dad is a 3rd degree black belt (retired), a master in jujitsu and i took karate in a real dojo in japan. lol |
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| iammesol |
| Good point, but I still don't see most of the fighters as meatheads who just want to kick someone's ass. |
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| amp3 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
it's not brilliant or honorable lol
marital arts is about self defense and discipline. ask any sensei...they will do anything to avoid a fight.
don't even go there with me. my dad is a 3rd degree black belt (retired), a master in jujitsu and i took karate in a real dojo in japan. lol |
Well to you it isn't honorable, and I will agree that there are fans who are just stupid (the one's who boo when it goes to the mat, and just want bloodshed) but, mma is competition. Not a camera following someone down the street picking a fight. People agree to face off against one another to see if their knowledge and skill set is better than their opponent. So yea you are to avoid a fight outside of the ring/cage/dojo, but almost all martial arts have some sort of competition attached to them. Karate, jujitsu, kickboxing, etc, all have their independent bodies that sanction fights/competitions. |
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| SuspicionVandit |
i wrote something long and deleted it and condensed it.
1) There are rules and they are safer than what the UFC offered 15 years ago, as well as safer than what Japan had to offer.
2) It is a competition and the returning fighters are the ones that see it as such. Street fighters, trouble makers, drama queens usually don't make it very far in competition or the eyes of management.
3) Boxing is almost exclusively targeted on trauma to the head. Yes, MMA looks violent, but it is safer in that the referees are trained to stop a fight when a fighter is out or can no longer defend himself. Boxing referees are trained to stop the fight when a fighter can not defend himself or recover from a moment where he could no longer defend himself. No disrespect to referees of either discipline.
4) There have been 2 deaths in MMA. One happened in Ukraine(?) in an unsanctioned fight, which might have well been a street fight. The fighter was not required to take a health examination, and after being knocked out, he died. It was later realized he had a brain tumor. The second happened recently (maybe last year in New Jersey?). He was knocked out at a sanctioned event. I believe he had brain surgery in his medical history, but was cleared to fight by a doctor who presumed enough time had relapsed.
A lot more people have died or have received permanent brain damage as a result of boxing.
5) boxing is fixed. |
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| inconspicuous |
| quote: | Originally posted by iammesol
Good point, but I still don't see most of the fighters as meatheads who just want to kick someone's ass. |
I do, but that just makes it more fun to root for the ones who aren't, and to see idiots swinging wildly suddenly get caught with a perfectly-timed counter or submission. |
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| inconspicuous |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
don't even go there with me. my dad is a 3rd degree black belt (retired), a master in jujitsu and i took karate in a real dojo in japan. lol |
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| Boomer187 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
4) There have been 2 deaths in MMA. One happened in Ukraine(?) in an unsanctioned fight, which might have well been a street fight. The fighter was not required to take a health examination, and after being knocked out, he died. It was later realized he had a brain tumor. The second happened recently (maybe last year in New Jersey?). He was knocked out at a sanctioned event. I believe he had brain surgery in his medical history, but was cleared to fight by a doctor who presumed enough time had relapsed.
A lot more people have died or have received permanent brain damage as a result of boxing.
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Originally posted by Some article June 2008
The Medical Advisory Committee under the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation convened last Friday to review its investigation of the death of Sam Vasquez, who became the first fighter in the U.S. to die from injuries sustained in competition.
Vasquez competed in his third professional bout on October 20, 2007, when he faced Vince Libardi at the Toyota Center in Houston. He was knocked down with a punch in the third round and subsequently collapsed. Vasquez underwent a series of surgeries to relieve pressure on his brain and was in a comatose state for six weeks before succumbing to the blunt force trauma on Nov. 30. |
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| squirrelly |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renzo
I think it's cute Sara likes MMA. I just wanna pinch her little buttcheeks. |
:p
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
Sarah marry me. For real I want to start a family with you |
Polish-Italian babies would be SO harry :wtf:
No but in all seriousness, I love MMA. I think that it takes extreme talent and skills (and especially since I've been learning how to fight, I have 106841354x more respect now that I know how HARD it really is). We totally get all into it and I laugh when his friends are talking about a fighter and I'm like "yea, remember when he fought so and so though? He was so off of his game!" and they're like :wtf: you're a GIRL! :stongue: |
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| Vivid Boy |
| oh i forgot you are polish. scratch the family thing. i just wanna |
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| elzidane |
gsp is going to headbutt his way to victory.
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| iammesol |
| quote: | Originally posted by inconspicuous
I do, but that just makes it more fun to root for the ones who aren't, and to see idiots swinging wildly suddenly get caught with a perfectly-timed counter or submission. |
Inversely, when some meathead like Carlos Newton gets raped by an intelligent Matt Hughes is pretty sweet too.
| quote: | Originally posted by inconspicuous
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