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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nightshift
LOL THREAD DELIVERS THE LOLZ.
Also I just think its funny how this guy (RichieV) talks so much yet he has nothing to show for what he's talking about. He just posts all up on this board like hes an all-knowing music guru and seemingly has and attitude of "if you dont think i'm right, you're stupid and have bad taste." |
Richie has some great posts around here. |
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| Sonic_c |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beatflux
Richie has some great posts around here. |
I dont doubt that! shame about the rest though he could easily be polite and helpful with his knowledge. Instead since september last year he has made a point to ridicule my music theory posts and I have noticed him doing it to others too.
not only that but then he has the idea to say things like music theory is already on eggshells......i wonder why some people are not so keen on music theory with guys like that around.
I dont usually go mad on here in fact i only have once that i can remember at Kitphillips for which is subsequently apoligised for after kit and others explained things to me. Fact is this rant I have had tonight is the culmination of him being rude and publicaly ridiculing me on theory threads for just over a year! |
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| Nightshift |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beatflux
Richie has some great posts around here. |
his posts arent what bug me because i do agree with alot of them, its just his attitude in how he posts them.
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Funny how Cryophonik and Diginut both have plenty of knowledge yet they can give corrections and share information without bringing a 10,000 lb ego in tow and belittling less knowledgeable people when they try to discuss music theory. Maybe you could try that next time? |
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| Sonic_c |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nightshift
his posts arent what bug me because i do agree with alot of them, its just his attitude in how he posts them. |
Exactly my point I never said he didnt know what he was talking about just that he uses that knowledge to belittle people (me) lol |
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sonic_c
I dont doubt that! shame about the rest though he could easily be polite and helpful with his knowledge. Instead since september last year he has made a point to ridicule my music theory posts and I have noticed him doing it to others too.
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I don't think he's trying to shame you. I don't think learning music theory from a forum thread is the best of ideas. Look at you, you are learning from a college instructor, not a website! |
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| RichieV |
ok Sonic C,
you talk about question and answer,
this is specific to form and it is a terminology I haven't ever encountered in any theoretical treatise. It is something I would envision in a childrens music class. What you are referring to has to do with phrase structure. Antecedent/ Consequent , Sentence / Continutation....
I would not of berrated you like i did until you came down pretty hard on RANN because you were unclear. Theory is the description of music and if you aren't using the same lexicon as everyone else, well there is a slight problem.
I apologize about calling your teacher a piece of . I'm pretty sure he doesn't get to chose what he teaches. I'm sure he is a nice guy. I still can't find any articles in any reputable journals but that doesn't mean he is a piece of .
When I say music theory is walking on eggshells, what i mean is that the whole topic is completely unsubstantiated. Theory is only a system of presentation for a given aesthetic. Nothing more, nothing less. It is almost right up there with gender studies. What you don't understand is that the theory you take is basic and probably the theory that is morst worthwhile in learning. Music theory should not even really be called theory.
I have posted many things regarding theory in clear concise way for people showing both the music, chords and examples in a proper coherent way ( unlike you ) .
I may be a little crass and people at work joke that I should be a talent agent but I don't see anything wrong with me pointing out your errors. Perhaps my method is along the lines of falsification and the philosophies that orbit it.
And please don't compare myself to you. I'm a little more than a year ahead of you. Your intentions seem to be attention, my intention is to avoid my girfriend. |
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| RichieV |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Funny how Cryophonik and Diginut both have plenty of knowledge yet they can give corrections and share information without bringing a 10,000 lb ego in tow and belittling less knowledgeable people when they try to discuss music theory. Maybe you could try that next time? |
I try. My writting skills are awefull. You can't be great at everything. Try spending 8 hours a day for 10 years practicing piano, then doign music 14 hours a day and see how normal you turn out.
Still, god might of made me a little quick tongued but he sure didn't spare the goodlooks. I also have aspergers and the sort of Anxiety that makes you put xanax in your fruitloops.
You know Last year , I worked with some amazing talent and I was very receptive and open. I love learning. I love hearing goodthings happening to good people. I'm not a pessimist. It is just that most people and things suck. |
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| DjStephenWiley |
Thread creators need the ability to ban posters and delete replies in their respective threads.
I was hoping to get some good insight and instead we have a middle school argument going on with people who have egos and absolutely nothing to show for it. Thanks for ruining the topic and my thread. |
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| RichieV |
I have some advice for you ,
you really need to seperate your production name from your label. You ask questions that make you out to be a complete amateur and this will naturally be transfered to how people view your label.
I mean that thread about your music not being pro. I thought to myself, wait, he runs a label but his music isn't pro ?....
Perhaps you should put the label on hold till the music is pro ?
I don't know. You said your self you are saturating the market with the same music. Why bother? Are you actually making money? It isn't like the old days where you got a vinyl and you could show all your friends. Ok i'm ranting. XL coffee for me. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by RichieV
you talk about question and answer,
this is specific to form and it is a terminology I haven't ever encountered in any theoretical treatise. |
I've heard the phrase "call and response", which is pretty much the same, and not only for percussion. I don't really remember if it was actually part of the written material or if it was just a teaching metaphor. I would also understand what you meant if you referred to phrases, sentences, continuations, cadences, and so on. The former may not be the "right" terminology but I think that it communicates the concept just as well, and really that's what music theory is about - communicating musical concepts and structures.
Sonic_c is also apparently studying in the UK. Keep in mind that the jargon actually does vary from country to country. When I took the exams for my second instrument, it was through Trinity College (London) (no, I didn't actually go to London, it was just their course), and that's quite possibly where I heard the phrase.
I don't think it was necessary for Sonic_c to start a pissing match with DJ RANN, nor was it necessary for you to start a pissing match with Sonic_c. There are enough idiots on this board posting stupid like "learning music theory would only stifle my awesome and boundless creativity", I think we should all be happy that there are producers out there who decided that it would be worth their time and are willing to come out and say that it's helped their productions.
And with respect to the original topic, my approach to writing leads is to wait for one to pop into my head, which is usually at the worst possible time (such as at work, or 10 km from home on foot), mentally repeat it about 20 times until I'm sure I can remember it, get home, realize I've completely forgotten it, spend 20 minutes banging away on the keyboard trying to remember it, and finally give up and just use whatever else I managed to improvise in the same 20 minutes. |
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