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TA's from behind the Iron Curtain: The Yugoslav wars, the fall of the USSR, and you. (pg. 2)
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Silky Johnson
Shut up, Lira, you in' commie. :mad:
Lira
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Originally posted by jennypie
Shut up, Lira, you in' commie. :mad:

I can only wish I was ing commies :( :p
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Originally posted by Zer0
As for Baltic states, it went pretty well in terms of casualties during that 1985-91 period. If I remember correctly, there were some lives lost in Latvia or Lithuania in that particular time. For my nation Estonia, that period was mostly about Singing Revolution, which was inspired by that drunk ass Gorbachev`s "more liberal" perestroika politics.
As for me and my family - we took part in the Baltic Chain. It took place in `89 and I was for about 3-4 years old back then. Still remember it really well - one of my brightest childhood memories. Eventually, we were all releaved, when soviets finally left after 50 years of occupation. Wankers.



That was very interesting. Thanks for sharing :)
paulandrews
Well, I was just a wee little five year old when the Velvet Revolution started in November 1989 in former Czechoslovakia, so I'm afraid I can't offer many interesting stories. It's not like I was running from barricade to barricade or anything :p

I lived with my family in Prague but they decided to escort me to my grandparents, few hundred kilometers away, just to make sure I'm safe. It wasn't really necessary as the whole "revolution" happened in a peaceful way, and all the demonstration weren't violent at all (maybe except the very first one).

One thing I remember though. I was with my mom in a shop where they were also selling TVs. All of them were showing a live broadcast from one of the demonstrations. There was a former communist leader standing on a balcony, saying to all the people down there: "We cannot let kids rule our country!" (It was students who started the whole thing.) The crowd responded, chanting: "We're no kids! We're no kids!" It seemed quite funny to me back then.

And it probably was. In retrospect, a lot of people say it wasn't a revolution at all; just the old communist regime was so rotten and tired it fell apart by itself. People like Václav Havel of course helped a lot but it was just a matter of time, and it would probably happen anyway.

Lira (or anyone else), if you have any specific questions regarding this matter, I will try to answer them. For me it's all pretty boring stuff from my growing up, and I'm not sure what exactly would interest you.
Fledz
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i have pieces of the berlin wall somewhere.

Everyone does. They sell them at any major German airport for like 8 Euros. I have a piece next to me :)

Lira - I remember huddling in the bathroom (as it was on the inside of the building hence safe from bombardments) and playing with my toys because for me as a small child, it was all a bit of fun. I used to ask my parents when the next time we'd go hide in there as it was exciting.
You can imagine how it would have been for the adults who knew what was happening, ie the naval bombardments with an incredibly high chance of a naval slug demolishing half the building with one hit.

I also remember many times walking to/from school when the sirens would go off and running to the nearest shelter. The sad thing is it became common place and people got fairly used to it.

One time my dad was afraid of where he left the car and wanted to move it. My mum barely managed to convince him to stay indoors and not risk getting hit by something. Minutes later a naval shell hit the building above the car and the car got sprayed with shrapnel. I remember like yesterday looking at the white Stojadin (it's appropriate that it sounds like Sto Jada to anyone who speaks the language) and the holes where the shrapnel had penetrated. It was incredibly hot even hours after the inital hit. I think we changed the whole engine due to the damage.

My mother told me of a time when I was with my grandparents on the island of Hvar and the Serbian navy cut us off from Split. I was very little so just did my thing while everyone else was scared to death.

All of this was the late 80s to about 1993. We left in 1994.
I believe my mums youngest brother died from a grenade many years ago. To this day I still don't know the real reason as it's too distressing to bring it up.

I watch stuck up people in the Western world complain about the most mundane and useless crap all the time. I even act more like them then I do my own people back home. But then I remember exactly how bad life can actually be and what people here will never even come close to comprehending, let alone experiencing.
I was one of the lucky ones to have been in a relatively safe city as Split wasn't too badly affected. I'm sure other Croats and even Serbs and Bosnians have gone through much worse.

And what was it all for? Nothing really. All because some ing politicians and land hungry scum wanted more of whatever they had. It's terrible. War is a terrible thing and people should be glad they never even come close to experiencing it.
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by Fledz
Everyone does. They sell them at any major German airport for like 8 Euros. I have a piece next to me :)


yeah, but mine is circa 1989, and not some cheap 1995 bosnian-serb-croat knock-off :p
Fledz
Why would it be a knock off and Croat at that? I bought it in Frankfurt :conf:
ravegirl_cro
..must say that I'm glad cause of Fledz..
I didn't have that chance,so I'm living in Croatia since the day I was born..
you also said.. "And what was it all for? Nothing really. All because some ing politicians and land hungry scum wanted more of whatever they had. It's terrible. War is a terrible thing and people should be glad they never even come close to experiencing it."
and I need to agree with you.. everyone can speak about it and say that he/she will do this or that,and give their opinions but until you see it with your own eyes and feel it on your skin-you don't know nothing.. and that's a fact..
denys envy
you could say i ... fledz the motherland.
Moongoose
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Originally posted by Lira
I can only wish I was ing commies :( :p


Oh i bet you are :p






Not much to say about the old times though. Was only about 7 when the first in what would be a long series of conflicts began (War for Slovenian independence), though we were lucky. Due to some poor decisions from the party (not military) leadership in Belgrade our war was quite short and with a relatively small bodycount. I do remember a few air raid alarms, but since i live near the centre of the country and most of the skirmishes during the war were fought on the borders so far as i can remember our city didn't see any real action, or quite possibly any action at all. Im glad that personally i don't have a story similar to fledzes (spelling?) to report.
Halcyon+On+On
That's quite a dramatic story of loss and redemption, Fledz.

Fledz
It's probably a touch melodramatic, I agree :stongue:
bananas
I was born in '89 so can't tell much.
I know my mom was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Way here and it was awesome.
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