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Opening DJ's... (pg. 9)
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| R!CH |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjWoody
What I saw in Miami was the opening DJ's for Laidback Luke playing a lot of his tracks. When Luke came on, he played them again. |
that sounds really lame on both their parts. lame on the opener for playing what luke apparently wanted to play and super lame on luke for not being able to adjust and deliver something fresh to the crowd. maybe luke showed up at the very end and didn't know that happened so i'll reserve judgment there, but still a pretty wack situation.
playing ONE track from the headliner's distant past is not the same as playing a bunch of them when you're opening for him. an opener like that is an insult to his local scene.
the opener's role is simple--as stated--to set up the party properly for a smooth transition into the headliner's arrival. beyond that you are completely free to express yourself through your track selection. a good dj will try to challenge the crowd and set himself apart with new and compelling sounds that appeal to that particular scene. a lame dj will go for the low hanging fruit, the easy and familiar crowdpleasers, the epitome of which is playing all the headliner's music. if you get a chance to open for a big dj, it's your opportunity to prove to a crowd that you have something to add. why not aim to stun and impress? my goal would be to play tracks the headliner hasn't heard and wants. |
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| Hypersky |
| Using Woody's suggestion, if you really want to with the headliner, you could download a recent set of his and proceed to play the same tracks in the same order as your warm up set. |
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| Randy S |
| quote: | Originally posted by Victor Dinaire
lol he was one of a kind |
Wow...weird! Facebook recommended that I suggest friends for Miki Swiss just now... Look out in your box ;) lol!! |
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| Lomeli |
| "Know your place." |
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| DaveT |
| quote: | Originally posted by R!CH
that sounds really lame on both their parts. lame on the opener for playing what luke apparently wanted to play and super lame on luke for not being able to adjust and deliver something fresh to the crowd. maybe luke showed up at the very end and didn't know that happened so i'll reserve judgment there, but still a pretty wack situation.
playing ONE track from the headliner's distant past is not the same as playing a bunch of them when you're opening for him. an opener like that is an insult to his local scene.
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At most club gigs, the headliners don't even get there until shortly before they go on so they don't even know all the tracks the opener plays....so it can be hard for them to adjust to deliver something fresh when the DJ doesn't necessarily know the opener play his tracks.
The opener shouldn't play his tracks simple. Not even old ones, no matter how much fun it might be. It's just not professional. Nor should the opener play any tracks the headliner has done any type of recent remix of. Seen that happen, too.
BTW, so is Laidback Luke good or not when you see him live? A couple of you seem to like him, but overall I've heard he can pretty bunk as a DJ. I dunno, just what I've heard. BTW, he's at Avalon on January 16th. |
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| DaveT |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjWoody
However, I also believe that if the headliner DJ can't keep up with the opening DJ, than he shouldn't be headlining. They should be prepared for anything and everything.
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This statement baffles me.
So if some opener for say John Digweed plays 130+ stuff or hard stuff or if that opener comes out busting Vegas Mashups, when Diggers starts at 120-122 or something and often mellow... So Digweed should conform to whatever the opener gives him and deal with it and come out banging hard and play out of his element? And if he can't/doesn't, he shoudln't even be headlining? Hmmm, no. |
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| bas |
| quote: | Originally posted by Hypersky
Using Woody's suggestion, if you really want to with the headliner, you could download a recent set of his and proceed to play the same tracks in the same order as your warm up set. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by DaveT
This statement baffles me.
So if some opener for say John Digweed plays 130+ stuff or hard stuff, when Diggers starts at 120-122 or something....so Diggers can't keep up with that 130+ stuff, so he shouldn't be headlining?
That makes no sense. So Digweed should conform to whatever the opener gives him and deal with it and come out banging hard and play out of his element? Don't think so. |
Yeah I agree. And like Renee said, "know your place". As much as loads of openers want to be a jetsetting superstar, opening at a local club because you gave the promoter a sweet zj isn't the time or place. |
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| Lomeli |
Who the is Renee???
LOL, jk Bro...
It's Rene :P |
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| DjWoody |
As much as it's the opening DJ's fault for setting the mood, it's the promoter's fault as well. They should know their opening DJ's and should be able to pair them accordingly.
In occasions, I had club managers and promoters come up to me and told me to bang it out. As a matter of fact, it happened to me last week. I was opening the club, it was about 10:30pm and there was lots of people inside the club already. I was playing latin house in the mid 120's. Hardly anyone was dancing, they were just socializing and drinking. The promoter comes to me and says to bang it out, that wants to see everyone dance. In that instance, I had no choice but to play what he wanted me to. After all, he is the one that pays me. |
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| Victor Dinaire |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjWoody
As much as it's the opening DJ's fault for setting the mood, it's the promoter's fault as well. They should know their opening DJ's and should be able to pair them accordingly.
In occasions, I had club managers and promoters come up to me and told me to bang it out. As a matter of fact, it happened to me last week. I was opening the club, it was about 10:30pm and there was lots of people inside the club already. I was playing latin house in the mid 120's. Hardly anyone was dancing, they were just socializing and drinking. The promoter comes to me and says to bang it out, that wants to see everyone dance. In that instance, I had no choice but to play what he wanted me to. After all, he is the one that pays me. |
That has happened to me a couple of times, once or twice at Circus |
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| DjWoody |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveT
This statement baffles me.
So if some opener for say John Digweed plays 130+ stuff or hard stuff or if that opener comes out busting Vegas Mashups, when Diggers starts at 120-122 or something and often mellow... So Digweed should conform to whatever the opener gives him and deal with it and come out banging hard and play out of his element? And if he can't/doesn't, he shoudln't even be headlining? Hmmm, no. |
Like Bas said, know your place. But obviously you're not gonna put a mashup DJ opening up for Digweed. That would be a wrong move on the promoters behalf. Just because a song is 122 doesn't mean it's mellow or hard. The BPM isn't the only deciding factor. The songs structure and energy have a lot to do with it. |
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| Victor Dinaire |
| quote: | Originally posted by Randy S
Wow...weird! Facebook recommended that I suggest friends for Miki Swiss just now... Look out in your box ;) lol!! |
.....did you just do a friend suggestion for him? lol |
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