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The most abused term in edm... (pg. 5)
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| Schadenfreude |
...and after techno, the most abused term is in fact gay.
Music being labeled as such as if absolutely all homosexuals listen to it like it was church. |
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| mehta |
Right enough, SYSTEM-J, I did contradict myself. I edited my original post after reading the thread, trying to accomodate other people's difficult interpretations.
Like all terms describing sound, it is relative: for example, a recording of water flowing is organic, a direct square tone is not.
Most or maybe all dance music is highly synthesized, but we can still differentiate between what is referred to as "organic" and what is more "technoid" <---- if someone has a better term here, please supply it
Although you are being particularly difficult, it is basic terminology.
House music, in general, is more "organic" than techno.
Complex sonorities that remain recognizable have an organic character. The way we ascertain such a description is through a combination of frequency analysis and subjective testing.
This is a worthwhile discussion & I appreciate your input (although it is entirely cynical) |
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| Trance-MB |
In the 90's by many people mostly outside the scene called all EDM with a strong beat "House", and I bet if you ask people still many will tell something is House, instead of techno, trance, hardcore, etc.
Oldest Techno has Detroit roots, but in Europe the name Techno has become an umbrella, which is the reason for calling tracks which don't sound like Detroit Techno as Techno.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techno | quote: | In Europa wurde der Begriff „Techno“ zum ersten Mal im Jahre 1982 von Andreas Tomalla (alias Talla 2XLC) verwendet. Der Frankfurter Musikliebhaber arbeitete Anfang der 1980er in einem Plattenladen unter dem Frankfurter Hauptbahnhof. Dort sortierte er Schallplatten mit elektronisch produzierter Musik in eine eigenständige Kategorie und benannte diese mit „Techno“.
Die damit entstandene Sammelbezeichnung umfasste anfangs Strömungen wie die deutsche Avantgarde (Kraftwerk), Elektronische Popmusik (Depeche Mode), EBM (Front 242, Nitzer Ebb), Industrial (Cabaret Voltaire, Clock DVA, Throbbing Gristle) und generell elektronisch arrangierte Spielarten der New Wave-Epoche (siehe Electro Wave), aber auch den Detroit Techno (A Number Of Names, Cybotron), der stark durch europäische Musikrichtungen geprägt wurde. In dieser Form konnte sich „Techno“ als Dachbegriff für elektronische Musik international – und vorzugsweise im deutschen Sprachraum – bis in den Beginn der 1990er-Jahre weiträumig etablieren. |
In a time without internet this could easily happen.
Question is if the name Techno is really abused if the meaning of the name changed in Germany.
Maybe not completely the same but in sport "Football" doesn't refer to the same type of game: "Football vs Soccer". |
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| Voyager1019 |
they probably call scooter techno , because they actually refer to their own music as techno
But , didnt techno split into many subgenres and therefore terminated to exist ? If not , can someone link a video of typical techno song ? |
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| mehta |
| quote: | Originally posted by Voyager1019
they probably call scooter techno , because they actually refer to their own music as techno
But , didnt techno split into many subgenres and therefore terminated to exist ? If not , can someone link a video of typical techno song ? |
no such thing as a typical techno song, but one can usually differentiate it from house & trance |
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| Voyager1019 |
i see
but how much is this sound present today ? |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by mehta
Although you are being particularly difficult, it is basic terminology.
House music, in general, is more "organic" than techno.
Complex sonorities that remain recognizable have an organic character. The way we ascertain such a description is through a combination of frequency analysis and subjective testing.
This is a worthwhile discussion & I appreciate your input (although it is entirely cynical) |
To say it's basic terminology, you've still not given me any kind of definition of what actually makes a sound "organic". At the moment you're just begging the question. |
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| Trance-MB |
| quote: | | i see but how much is this sound present today ? |
Well, check the tracks on e.g. volume 13, 14, 15: http://bluepoint.gen.tr/Techno_Trax/index.html
Think that explains the umbrella. It's the music industrie and producers who created this, not the people listening it.
Most people didn't care what genre a EDM track was, at least I can't remember being curious about that back then. Back then you were happy to find a track you heard, that often was hard enough. |
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| Chimney |
| Which ISN'T abused? |
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| miamitranceman |
| Definitely techno. |
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