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Best VST for arpeggio design? (pg. 4)
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evo8
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Originally posted by d_Verge
With Z3ta, you can convert 1-bar MIDI files to Z3ta arpeggio files.

Here's how:


sweet, will try this out, thanks!!!
mfitterer1
You have me confused with someone else although that is my aim..

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mfitterer1
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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley
Simmer down cowboy. I think you need to stop for a second and remember who paid money for Catanya and who sent you Catanya, for free. That is assuming you're AOL AIM is in fact michaelfitterer6. (You're welcome by the way) If not that is not your AOL AIM, then my apologies, but I suspect it is.
See above.

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This is not meant to be a derogatory question, but how old are you? You seem to have a severe lack of courtesy (not just in this thread) as well as a very ignorant idea as to what music should be. (ie. You don't know a flip about EDM except for what has happened over possibly the last 5 years) - Using your logic, if you can sit back and watch a computer make a track for you then it's ok because it's technology. Perhaps Merriam-Webster can teach you about arts in exchange for your monumental thesis on misconstruing things.

You know how old I am and as far as referencing my quotes on technology; you don't have to use it, but it is there for you to take advantage of. I will do anything and everything to make any finished product (not just music) the best it can be. I have no ego or qualms about being lesser than someone else because i'm in this for myself and to prove a point. The product is all that matters. Giving the people who listen to the music something to enjoy is all I care about. Not the industry, not the djs, and not any labels. In fact it's possible that none of my solo productions will ever be released on another label. The system as is right now is broken and just like the technology; it's time for a change!

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You speak of EDM as if you got it going on and seem to imply that I don't, which is why I feel the way I do. Again, I laugh. I'd love to hear your productions. If you don't want to buy mine you can grab Oakenfold's Perfecto on Tour sets for free and listen to not only my music but other tracks from my label in the very same sets. :haha:
I actually like your productions so I don't know wtf you're going on about! Yes I'm a perfectionist, yes my productions reflect that; but aside from that I think you misunderstood my quotes. I wasn't attacking you or your abilities but your mindset. Trust me I listen to your label releases and you have sent me a few promos; and I would be willing to buy some of them IF they were on beatport. I already spend enough time and money there; I have no interest in spending even more time elsewhere.

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You say, "EDM is ing simple"

Fair enough. I won't argue that one bit, but it does raise my expectations of your productions and makes me even more eager to hear them. I'll have an ear out for those Catanya MIDI-presets


That's great! High expectations is why I do things the way I do. If you make people expect a high level product it forces you to make high level products. I will be releasing several tracks for free here in the next few weeks i'll make sure you get copies;)

Don't take my words as hating on or attacking you. It's just I see you in music for all the wrong reasons. I just see you showing off gear and bragging about releases or Oakie playing your tracks. That's all awesome but if I already had my foot in the door like that I'd sure as hell be spending even MORE time on my music because you have a great avenue of exposure. THAT IS MY OPINION; NOT NECESSARILY A FACT, so no need to flame me for it. Also I haven't even used Catanya in any of my productions yet; I was just defending new age technology. I typically don't use new instruments or products in my music for 2-3 months before I start using them. Gives me time to master what it can and can't do.
Subtle
Electronic Dance Music is by far the easiest genre of music to create of them all, we have machines doing the work for us.. and no vocals needed!
d_Verge
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Originally posted by Subtle
Electronic Dance Music is by far the easiest genre of music to create of them all, we have machines doing the work for us.. and no vocals needed!


I hear where you're going with that, but machines do nothing without a human behind them.
Storyteller
I'd remove the emails from your post Mfitterer. Because of spam and such ;)
mfitterer1
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Originally posted by Storyteller
I'd remove the emails from your post Mfitterer. Because of spam and such ;)


It used to be my primary email but as anyone who has used hotmail knows it only takes time before it becomes unusable. I use it for all my purchases and signing up for sites and such now so it!

And as far as the other statement made about machines not doing anything without a human behind them; totally off. If you put a guitar or any other real instrument in front of me I'd be ed but I can make good music that people can enjoy because edm is simple enough for ANYONE to master. Just takes time and a studious mind. Just saying!
DjStephenWiley
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Originally posted by mfitterer1
Don't take my words as hating on or attacking you. It's just I see you in music for all the wrong reasons. I just see you showing off gear and bragging about releases or Oakie playing your tracks. That's all awesome but if I already had my foot in the door like that I'd sure as hell be spending even MORE time on my music because you have a great avenue of exposure. THAT IS MY OPINION; NOT NECESSARILY A FACT.


Thanks for the tip. I'll try to remember it and not be so shy when I am with Paul at Rain on the 13th. No, not bragging. Just telling you the truth.

I don't understand where you're coming from when it comes to gear bragging. I have nothing compared to most?

What am I supposed to say about my music? It's good and you should really check it out! - That's what every rehtard says and nobody ever bothers to listen. Tell them somebody important is pounding the F out of it and they'll take notice. Simple as that. You can view me however you like, but, #1. you have no clue who I am or how I operate. Bragging about my gear? where? Bragging about oakey playing my tracks? Sorry if its the truth? I am not saying it in an arrogant manner. I said it because I want to hear what you have to offer since you seem to have a lot of bark and no bite.

You know I was just like you when I started when I was younger and I wish I would have just done what I try to do now and that is keep my mouth shut, carry a big stick, and let your music and others do the talking for you. Unfortunately I had to come in here and set the record straight.
Storyteller
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Originally posted by mfitterer1
It used to be my primary email but as anyone who has used hotmail knows it only takes time before it becomes unusable. I use it for all my purchases and signing up for sites and such now so it!


What about the sender? ;)
lenieNt Force
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Originally posted by mfitterer1
It used to be my primary email but as anyone who has used hotmail knows it only takes time before it becomes unusable. I use it for all my purchases and signing up for sites and such now so it!

And as far as the other statement made about machines not doing anything without a human behind them; totally off. If you put a guitar or any other real instrument in front of me I'd be ed but I can make good music that people can enjoy because edm is simple enough for ANYONE to master. Just takes time and a studious mind. Just saying!

Disagree.. Not anyone can master EDM.. Although it depends on what you mean by master.. To make EDM is one thing, to be exceptionally good at it is another thing (somebody like Leon Bolier). It's what I think about when you say master atleast. I mean if we're gonna say Michael Jackson didn't have natural talent.. It's just.. not worth discussing ofcourse.. Because he indeed did. It would be plain stupidity and blindness to discuss it. Ofcourse growing up as a member of the Jackson family helps.. But then again Jermaine should have been equally as good right? There is something called natural talent and a musical gene, whether one likes it or not.. There's done dozens of studies on it... And yes I believe in God given gifts.. Heh actually it makes me a little sick just discussing it so I don't know what I'm on about here.. I know it to be so true..

Making edm is simple.. just as playing a guitar is simple.. Making exceptional edm is not, just as being an exceptional guitar player is not. To be an outstanding transmitter of emotions through music demands both natural talent and lots of dedication.

Mozart didn't have talent for making music at all? Neither did Vivaldi? Beethoven? Bach? Schubert? Händel? Ofcourse they did..

Einstein didn't have a natural gift in the art of thinking? Yes he did.. There's even been done studies of his well preserved brain lately where they amongst other things discovered unnaturally big neural connectors in central areas for processing of math and physics, and traces of synesthesic couplings. Couple that with an astonishing imagination and your set to become what I call an exceptional physicist. (note: exception(al))

"
Musical Talent: Innate or Learned?
Volume 3 / Issue 1 / Fall 2002

Are children born with an appreciation for music and the ability to demonstrate it? Or do they develop musical ability through early exposure and structured practice? The answer is both, according to Dianna Richardson, graduate of the Juilliard School and the Cleveland Institute of Music. Richardson, who is an artist-in-residence at the Cleveland School of the Arts and a youth instructor at Baldwin-Wallace College, claims that many of her inner-city high school students possess “raw talent.” They have a keen ear for music, can play demonstrated or familiar pieces beautifully, have an extraordinary sense of rhythm, and are well synchronized with their peers when playing their instruments. Most of them, however, lack formal music instruction and cannot read sheet music. In contrast, Richardson’s college students, who have benefited from early structured lessons in reading and understanding music, can play most sheet music with impressive precision but are not as adept at playing together as a group.

The Association for Supervision and Curriculum Development reports that children who are musically gifted show early developmental signs of musical precocity, which may include noticing off-key music, remembering melodies, singing in tune, fondness for playing instruments in preschool, rhythmic ways of moving and speaking, humming to themselves, tapping rhythmically while working, and sensitivity to environmental sounds (waterfalls, rain on the roof, etc.). Researchers recognize such indicators of precocious musical talent as an innate ability to identify pitch (i.e., to imitate pitch with precision), precise rhythmic ability, intense interest in a variety of music, and an ability to learn and express music through rote methods (recognition and imitation). Richardson says that such students in the inner city, where resources may not be readily available, are often identified in religious organizations, where they participate regularly in choirs and are encouraged to express themselves musically.
"

Source: http://www.dukegiftedletter.com/art...o1_article.html

Storyteller
Good post, I disagree as well. My next door neighbour actually is a producer as well and gives recording/mixing classes on a school as well. He's does jingles, news-tunes all types of music but I manage to produce better house/trance music than he does. If dance music really was that easy for everyone, he would have outdone me in no-time. But he doesn't. He does in just about any other genre/field of expertise :)
TranceLover007
I think that we are spending too much time arguing and dragging this issue for too long and not spending enough time do what we love to do - create/produce music.

I said that before - nobody will guaranty you success, nobody will make that process easy for you, there will be no mercy up there, it is very simple - ether you are great/good and the mass will love you or you will do this only for you satisfaction (which is usually the case for some of us).

Doesn’t really matter for me if I will be famous artist/producer or not (don't get me wrong - I will do whatever is necessary to be one), it's just that feeling of complete satisfaction, feeling to be in the right place, doing the thing I love to do - that's what I'm doing that for, nothing less, nothing more just that satisfaction.

I know that all of us have different perspective/view on this, but as long as we are willing to listen, willing to learn and willing to work together, we have much better chance to succeed.

Thanks guys, this is only my 0.02.

Cheers
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