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| Sushipunk |
| Well, he's obviously still ok. Saw him lurking about 5 mins or so ago. |
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| tubularbills |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
Well, he's obviously still ok. Saw him lurking about 5 mins or so ago. |
:stongue: :stongue: such a stalker, stu |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by tubularbills
:stongue: :stongue: such a stalker, stu |
What ing stalking? I can see all the lurkers up there above the COR forum, even if they're in invisible mode :p |
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| tubularbills |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
What ing stalking? I can see all the lurkers up there above the COR forum, even if they're in invisible mode :p |
still a stalking tool. |
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| tubularbills |
| hehe, you should stalk ********. really make him bat insane. |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by tubularbills
still a stalking tool. |
No it's not. I'm a responsible adult :o |
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by leph555
Once again, how much would we really be helping him like this. I hope someone knows him IRL here, so you can get in contact with his parents and the authorities. |
It's not just him, it's for others too. People often search forums and google for topics in their life that bother them, and with a member base of 90K+ (ok, around 12K real, actual, non-alts), there's quite a decent chance that someone might find these discussions useful. |
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| R!CH |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
Right. It has nothing to do with the complex stressors of today's world at all. Food and exercise, yup. The ONLY two factors to consider when discussing how to treat depression. Lol. |
life is and always has been about pain, stress, and discomfort. today you stress about your bills, decades ago people stressed about nuclear winter, hundreds of years ago people stressed about infectious disease, thousands of years ago people stressed about lions eating them alive. our lives are no more stressful today than they were then, but somewhere along the line we've become less independent, less adaptable, less capable as individuals to affect our own circumstances. what has transpired is a systematic deconstruction of the individual's mental, social, and physical health through the multitude of cultural banes conditioned into modern society as norms.
you're right that diet and exercise alone make an incomplete picture, but what's missing isn't psychiatric medicine, it's knowledge. there are proven techniques on how to manage and cope with stressors big and small by living mindfully of how you maintain your overall health. likely the stress in your life is a physiological response to a false sense of emergency and by learning to control your stress response, you can hone the knowledge it takes to manage the stress that arises under a healthy lifestyle that includes rigorous diet and exercise.
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
Furthermore, what you're talking about here equates to victim blaming...and while the average idiot still thinks this way about health and wellness (behavioural/lifestyle factors), people in the health care world have long moved beyond that type of thinking to recognize that there are a broad number of socioenvironmental factors that contribute to well-being. Or lack thereof.
Your type of thinking isn't entirely wrong, of course healthy habits/lifestyle are beneficial to good health; however, this is under the assumption that everybody has the same access to good food, exercise, etc. You need to understand that for some people, whether they want to choose a healthy lifestyle or not, there may be several barriers to them attaining it.
Yours is a simple answer to a much more complex problem than you clearly understand. |
not victim-blaming, self-reliance and self-empowerment. i recognize access to healthy food, exercise and the knowledge needed to properly cope with stress aren't equally accessible to people of different socioeconomic classes, but that is not an excuse to steer these people away from proper treatment, which should always begin with the most simple, basic and effective methods first. how are drugs and therapy going to help someone who is sedentary, malnourished, socially isolated, and oblivious to the impact of that lifestyle on his mood? before referring anyone to professionals, people should be given the tools to help themselves first. the tools are these fundamentals that so many people in this country are totally ignorant of. furthermore, what a prescription drug does to one's psyche is places an external locus of control over their circumstances, telling him he is incapable of overcoming such obstacles on his own and shouldn't even bother trying. |
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| Omega_Blue |
everybody, everybody- he updated his original post, concluding that he's not gonna try eating OTC medicine to death again like last time
thread concluded. way to hide your obvious cry for attention that half the people called you out on by editing your post instead of simply posting a reply  |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by R!CH
life is and always has been about pain, stress, and discomfort. today you stress about your bills, decades ago people stressed about nuclear winter, hundreds of years ago people stressed about infectious disease, thousands of years ago people stressed about lions eating them alive. our lives are no more stressful today than they were then, but somewhere along the line we've become less independent, less adaptable, less capable as individuals to affect our own circumstances. what has transpired is a systematic deconstruction of the individual's mental, social, and physical health through the multitude of cultural banes conditioned into modern society as norms.
you're right that diet and exercise alone make an incomplete picture, but what's missing isn't psychiatric medicine, it's knowledge. there are proven techniques on how to manage and cope with stressors big and small by living mindfully of how you maintain your overall health. likely the stress in your life is a physiological response to a false sense of emergency and by learning to control your stress response, you can hone the knowledge it takes to manage the stress that arises under a healthy lifestyle that includes rigorous diet and exercise.
not victim-blaming, self-reliance and self-empowerment. i recognize access to healthy food, exercise and the knowledge needed to properly cope with stress aren't equally accessible to people of different socioeconomic classes, but that is not an excuse to steer these people away from proper treatment, which should always begin with the most simple, basic and effective methods first. how are drugs and therapy going to help someone who is sedentary, malnourished, socially isolated, and oblivious to the impact of that lifestyle on his mood? before referring anyone to professionals, people should be given the tools to help themselves first. the tools are these fundamentals that so many people in this country are totally ignorant of. furthermore, what a prescription drug does to one's psyche is places an external locus of control over their circumstances, telling him he is incapable of overcoming such obstacles on his own and shouldn't even bother trying. |
Who said anything about drugs? I'm merely pointing out your poor grasp of the issue. |
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