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160,000,000....One Hundred And Sixty Millllion (pg. 3)
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Richard Butler
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kismet7
Why are you so angry out of interest?
Your future children will never need an angry adult in thier lives - conquer it now maybe
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Angry? How is reasoning, logic, and observation = Angry? Angry people do not use any sort of rationale or logic. zomg...even more logic?
Why are you and others like you delusional? Do they only hire delusional people at the place you slave for?
Anyhow...keep to topic or find another topic to blow bubbles in. :toothless
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Some genres are less context specific. Pop for example will tend to be the most listened to say in a builders yard or working warehouse.
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Besides clubs, homes, and cars, EDM is listened to in Shopping Malls, Gyms, Car Dealerships, in Pavillions and Promenades, on holds with customer service. At theme parks and film and videogame soundtracks. And thats in America. In Europe, Latin America, or Japan...you're talking about everywhere. Other genres arent exactly less context specific than EDM. |
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| mfitterer1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
I think the lady gaga track is high because she is famous right now, but other than "pop" what hardcore, or goa, or prog trance track is sitting at several million views? And also, if you put every musical outlet there is together, i personally don't think "electronica" would be near the top, lil wayne and mily cyrus will see to that [then again, what is electronica?] |
Pop and rap/hip hop conversions to edm only helps goa hardcore and prog trance. So many people have just never been exposed to edm. Many people are very open minded to listening to new things; but they are fed what the industry puts out to them. Things like Lady Gaga getting 160 million views is proof in the pudding that people want something new. It has to start somewhere. I can't stand her/him; but appreciate that she is paving the way. I don't have the disdain I do for Gaga for Guetta but they are both doing the same thing. Exposing America to EDM; which in 5 years will make OUR music available and listened to on a larger scale. |
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| mfitterer1 |
And what people are mentioning about vocals is obvious. No offense but most consumers are dumb and get bored easily. They need something throughout the song to learn that they can follow along with.
I doubt there will ever be instrumental tracks with the kind of success vocals have. |
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| Beatflux |
| Lady Gaga isn't EDM. If there weren't any vocals I would be impressed, but it's clearly pop and the popular was built on her previous success. |
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| Beatflux |
The only work Lady Gaga does is in regards to her fashion and image. That's it. She's not really an artist in any sense most of the time unless she's recording for a new album.
She's completely manufactured, and she's on every street corner.
It's not EDM because it's not intended to be danced to. It's a pop tune. It's to be played at stadiums, commercials, MTV, whatever. The club isn't the first target, it's much more down the line. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beatflux
The only work Lady Gaga does is in regards to her fashion and image. That's it. She's not really an artist in any sense most of the time unless she's recording for a new album.
She's completely manufactured, and she's on every street corner.
It's not EDM because it's not intended to be danced to. It's a pop tune. It's to be played at stadiums, commercials, MTV, whatever. The club isn't the first target, it's much more down the line. |
How do you know this? |
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
How do you know this? |
An interview she did on Oprah. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beatflux
An interview she did on Oprah. |
Figures.
She plays the piano, though. |
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| alanzo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beatflux
Lady Gaga isn't EDM. If there weren't any vocals I would be impressed, but it's clearly pop and the popular was built on her previous success. |
I absolutely agree. But I actually am quite a fan of Lady Gaga. Not from a musical aspect, it's ing boring music, I just love how edgy and artistic she is. She's like the Marilyn Manson of pop, really cool and NOT Disney bull.
On to why she is the most popular, and it should be noted that at least on Youtube, she is the first artist to reach 1billion views overall. I attribute her popularity to making trendy music (with the dance beat) that is just barely musical enough to entice the masses. My fiance loves Lady Gaga, and you know, it's not terrible. I'd rather she listens to Lady Gaga than almost all hip hop. |
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| DigiNut |
Aside from the fact that you've very obviously moved your petty argument from another thread to this new one, turning it into your little soapbox and throwing around a lot of big words to make it sound like you're an expert on all things business and economics... this really seems like a topic better suited to the Music Discussion forum, where people with a lot more patience and time on their hands can rip it apart at their leisure.
Would you care to explain what any of this has to do with production? |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Aside from the fact that you've very obviously moved your petty argument from another thread to this new one, turning it into your little soapbox and throwing around a lot of big words to make it sound like you're an expert on all things business and economics... this really seems like a topic better suited to the Music Discussion forum, where people with a lot more patience and time on their hands can rip it apart at their leisure.
Would you care to explain what any of this has to do with production? |
I'm not using big words, i'm using more definitive words to say what I want to get accross. Kinda like using guitar sounds if I wanted to make something with some funk to it.
That said, how does this thread not belong in production forum? Part of the premise is to show Producer's here, that the 4/4 music they might make, is listened to virtually anyone who can access it. Its important for Producer's to see with evidence that the "EDM is a niche market and no one really likes EDM" is a blatant lie. I think it will positively affect what Producer's here might do with their music and with their ambitions. Personally, I see the massive mainstream success of a purely EDM track as potential for future interest of the more Underground music that I make and others make. Think about your progression through genres.
So this topic is very much in line with what should be discussed here, and already is discusssed in similar fashion by your buddy StephenWiley and other people like him, who take up the other side of the argument. So why arent you in those threads questioning their validity for this forum. Quite hypocritcal to allow threads that bash the music and industry, yet question threads that show the positive side through rather objective evidence.
And you can bring whoever you want to this thread, bring the smart people from MD here, to discuss the topic. Start sending out PMs to your friends who you think will rip this thread apart, since you dont have the ability.
ps: people here are far more patient than most on this forum. |
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| hasbone |
| while i won't disagree that it's a 4/4 dance track, it doesn't really have a lot to do with EDM |
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