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Armada Bans Tracks from podcasts (pg. 4)
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| mfitterer1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
I think it measn they are trying to get more control over content.
Usually, this sort of thing is done by small companies to make them look more attractive to larger ones. It solidifies their position at least to the eyes of paper pushers and makes them look like their content is protected, and therefore worth more.
My money is on them selling out to a major, and Armin making a ton of coin from it.
I've seen other labels/companies in other genres/businesses do the same sort of thing in preparation of floating/selling. YOu plug the holes to make it more valuable. |
How do international laws regarding monopolies work?
They are getting dangerously close to monopolizing the industry but is there anyway to stop it since they operate mainly over the internet? My guess is no as they wouldn't blindly make moves like this without knowing the repercussions.
Is there anyway to fight this?
Also I thought AvB was just being used as the face of the company? I thought he had little to know stock/control over Armada? |
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| kitphillips |
Lol. They aren't doing anything to enforce their monopoly other than doing well, and they're a long way from having a monopoly except over cheesy trance maybe.
I wouldn't be surprised if they were about to be acquired by a major though. It does fit the pattern. |
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| DJ RANN |
TBH, I think this is a move to corporatise Armada away from a small indie EDM outlet.
Small companies do this sort of thing they are lining themselves up to be bought out by a major.
I really wouldn't be surprised if they are just shoring up their business model so they look more attractive to one of the majors. |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by user19503
not sure i understand what u mean here? logistic? a laptop and a midicontroller? or 2-3 cds with all your tracks? for me i think deadmaus is doing the right thing, eventhough i dont like his music, he has huge success playing only his own tracks, dj wise. to improve he could for example play every third track live direct from a laptop. and when he gets better more and more can be true live. look at prodigy, their actualy just playing back studio records without even djeing them, but they add some drums and new extra synths. a liveact covering an hour or two shouldnt be too dificult for a true edm-artist. |
Honestly. Do you have any idea whats going on with live performances? Its really hard to do anything live, and trying to gget the balance right between control over set list and control over individual tracks is really hard. Try and do it and then tell me that DJs should play all their own tracks.
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if they did it off CDs I'd boo them off the stage. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
I wouldn't be surprised if they were about to be acquired by a major though. It does fit the pattern. |
motherf....beat me by a matter of seconds. oh well, great minds think alike ;) |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
motherf....beat me by a matter of seconds. oh well, great minds think alike ;) |
Eh? I was just agreeing with your post actually:) |
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| user19503 |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
Honestly. Do you have any idea whats going on with live performances? Its really hard to do anything live, and trying to gget the balance right between control over set list and control over individual tracks is really hard. Try and do it and then tell me that DJs should play all their own tracks.
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if they did it off CDs I'd boo them off the stage. |
i know its hard, thats why i think deadmaus is doing the right thing by playing his own stuff on cd until he has the practise to do the real thing. nothing wrong with playing your own tracks on cds imo, with a few unrelealesed tracks, bootlegs and other funny stuff to keep yourself original. music is music anyway. your coming with the same statement as vinyl elitists did when laptop djeing was coming. it just doesnt matter to 90% of the people. |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by user19503
i know its hard, thats why i think deadmaus is doing the right thing by playing his own stuff on cd until he has the practise to do the real thing. nothing wrong with playing your own tracks on cds imo, with a few unrelealesed tracks, bootlegs and other funny stuff to keep yourself original. music is music anyway. your coming with the same statement as vinyl elitists did when laptop djeing was coming. it just doesnt matter to 90% of the people. |
No, its completely different. The point of Djing is that you can control the flow of the set, you basically build the set to suit the crowd. If your playing only your own tracks you just can't do that because you won't have the range of tracks. Thats why deadmau5 sets are boring as .
THe point of a live set in contrast, is that you can control each individual song. If you play a set of your own CDs, then you pretty much have neither the advantages of a DJ set or a live set, you can't control the songs because they're on CD, and you can't control the set because its pre planned. So you basically fail in every way.
Its got nothing to do with vinyl vs CD or any other such bull. Stop whatever you're smoking, its messing with your head. |
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| user19503 |
then explain why deadmaus is the fastest rising edm artist of all time? because people think he is dumb mixing with cds? because he doesnt have enough tracks? no its because people like his music and they dont ing care about all the elite your talking about u ing nerd. their there for a party and he deliver it. i must also say that i dont like his music at all but he is doing everything right besides that. btw if ur a famous artists your not "building a set to suit the crowd", the crowd are there to ing listen to you!
lol that was a little harsh maybe. :p |
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| kitphillips |
Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with anything your saying in that post. But also consider that lady gaga is one of the fastest rising stars ever, does that mean that the way that she makes/performs songs is superior?
I think not.
I actually do like deadmau5's music (at times) and I don't actually think he performs that way. as far as I'm aware he actually uses a lemur which somwhat puts paid to the idea of him using CDJs.
I think the real question here is whether its acceptable for producers to play off CDJs and play the same set every night. I think its totally ing artistically bankrupt for any artist to do so, whether or not the crowd cares, I certainly do, and I would walk out of a nightclub if someone started doing that. |
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| user19503 |
| id do it anyday. :D |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
Eh? I was just agreeing with your post actually:) |
I know but you posted exactly what I was thinking before I got a chance to!
As for the live debate. There's no ing reason you can't do it live. Yes it helps if there are two+ of you, but the Chems, Orbital, Chicane, and too many others to mention have managed it 10 years ago and do it to incredible performance levels so anyone that has to revert doing a peter hook has no excuses. |
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