Originally posted by Nostalgic
They forgot to mention the Dune remake. The David Lynch version was a disaster, and I would give a remake/reboot a chance.
I would love to see that as well but I think the only way it would work (for me at least) is if it were on the scale of something like The Lord Of The Rings. Dune is just such a complex story that it can't be done as a standard length movie (like 1.5-2 hours).
idoru
I will break into Michael Bay's house, tie him to a chair, slaughter his family in front of him, then slowly and painfully remove all of his nails before burning him alive if he does, in fact, remake The Birds.
The scary part about this is that I'm barely joking. I'll want that dead if it happens.
Halcyon+On+On
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Originally posted by EddieZilker
I tend to think a darker portrayal is in order, a la Miller & Darrow in Hard Boiled.
That would make for such an excellent movie. I'd even love an animated film about it... kind of reminiscent of the Harry Canyon segment from the original Heavy Metal. :o
EddieZilker
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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
That would make for such an excellent movie. I'd even love an animated film about it... kind of reminiscent of the Harry Canyon segment from the original Heavy Metal. :o
Absolutely - total cyberpunk. All the violence of Kite with the intellectual gusto of Ghost in the Shell AND Hard Boiled seems to have topicality.
djhaziel
Some famous remakes I do like
Scarface
The Fly
Cape fear
Halcyon+On+On
I always forget The Fly was a remake. Such an excellent and greusome re-envisioning.
djhaziel
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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
I always forget The Fly was a remake. Such an excellent and greusome re-envisioning.
Cronenberg ftw
;)
Halcyon+On+On
I can hear the flapping already, idoru. The horribly mastered mish-mash of digital sqawks and the blurry hordes of feathery miasma sweeping over unfortunate victims at an inconsistent rate, clearly just people crouching in front of a green screen and bellowing at the top of their would-be talented lungs "AIEEEEEEEE BIRDSSSSsss" - but what was that? Could it possibly be? Did that bird have a PEPSI can in its beak? And another one? This is clearly a sign - I am thirsty! I must rush to the theatre lobby immediately to enjoy a refreshing PEPSI - and after that I must buy a CHEVROLET! Just as the protagonists drive - they're obviously hearty, American automobiles, capable of bulldozing through rampant bird attacks without so much as a single scratch! Truly, that is what I must do if I want to make it home after such a fantastic envisioning of Hithcock's classic horror masterpiece made modern by the sagely directing of one of Hollywood's finenst artists!
idoru
You're such an . :stongue:
EddieZilker
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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
I can hear the flapping already, idoru. The horribly mastered mish-mash of digital sqawks and the blurry hordes of feathery miasma sweeping over unfortunate victims at an inconsistent rate, clearly just people crouching in front of a green screen and bellowing at the top of their would-be talented lungs "AIEEEEEEEE BIRDSSSSsss" - but what was that? Could it possibly be? Did that bird have a PEPSI can in its beak? And another one? This is clearly a sign - I am thirsty! I must rush to the theatre lobby immediately to enjoy a refreshing PEPSI - and after that I must buy a CHEVROLET! Just as the protagonists drive - they're obviously hearty, American automobiles, capable of bulldozing through rampant bird attacks without so much as a single scratch! Truly, that is what I must do if I want to make it home after such a fantastic envisioning of Hithcock's classic horror masterpiece made modern by the sagely directing of one of Hollywood's finenst artists!
:stongue: :stongue: :stongue: :stongue:
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by EddieZilker
I see your point. Still, I think there's certainly enough to base the satire on, today, even with Obama, in office - and it's not as though he's above the fray, currently - even though my fingers are crossed for a turn-around.
I'm definitely not suggesting that contemporary America isn't worthy of satire, but Robocop is not the vehicle to do it. Robocop himself is a symbol - to borrow from sci-fi genre theory he's a novum, a technological point of departure from the real world that acts as a metonym for the symbolic strategies of the overall text. Robocop is a portmanteau of Jesus, comic-book superhero and Western sheriff, the messiah of a corrupted American spirituality that wants its saviour to gun down the sinners rather than forgive them. He's not just a deconstruction of the 80s action hero enacting ultra-violent revenge on unambiguiously evil bad guys, he's a deconstruction of what that figure says about the society that produced and celebrated him.
EDIT: I should also add that all this refers only to the first Robocop. the sequels.
It's too late. And I'm actually sorry, even though I'm making the case for it, because your argument was very well reasoned with a lot of insight.
It could be argued that very little of Robocop's premise fits into the Science Fiction category, anymore. Most of the futuristic gizmos in the '87 version are stark anachronisms or simply laughable as attempts at fortune-telling.
The dystopia of Detroit, on the other hand, is anything but anachronism. It's a city, literally rotting from the inside out, murdered by corporate hubris and a design tendency towards epically homeovestic phallocentrism. It is the horrid mirror of it's visage for R1, rife with crime and plagued by political scandal a la' Kwame Kilpatrick - recently booted out of office.
There's also a significant development of robotics devoted not just to law-enforcement but the battlefield. That dog, being the scariest thing I've ever seen, adaptation of Obamacare may be the perfect Deus Mechanica. Witness the horror of the Single Payer Health Care Plan replete with an OCP Health Alliance death-panelist willing to marshal our hero into service for Detroit; since it may be questionably determined that he was truly dead, in the first place.
