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Moral Hazard
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Originally posted by amp3
go paperclip, staples are bad. Employers usually will want to make copies, and staples will be annoying.


This is correct.
Fledz
Anybody who can fit all they need to on one page in their resume is not worth hiring.
Moral Hazard
quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
Anybody who can fit all they need to on one page in their resume is not worth hiring.


I wouldn't say that's true. I hired someone who spent 14 years with one employer right out of university. One of my best employees.
igottaknow
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Originally posted by Fledz
Anybody who can fit all they need to on one page in their resume is not worth hiring.

oh noooooos your resume is bigger than mine! :stongue:
Boomer187
You cannot go wrong with a paperclip. and 2 pages is fine as long as it is all critical job related experience, hiring managers lol at 3+ page resumes. My in-law is a head hunter, he got a 5 page resume from a guy and would not pass it on.
Trance Nutter
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Originally posted by Fledz
Anybody who can fit all they need to on one page in their resume is not worth hiring.


resume and cv aren't exactly the same.

We generally use CV's as opposed to resume's as the US know it.

Resume (as I understand the US considers a resume to be) is more like your cover letter, which should be around the 1 page mark. But you are correct, your CV should be far in excess of 1 page.
kadomony
fold it into an origami swan
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melissa<3

how you doin love? been a long long time...
gehzumteufel
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Originally posted by Fledz
Anybody who can fit all they need to on one page in their resume is not worth hiring.

I'll vehemently disagree with this, because you could have your best employee that has had only one or two jobs, that is more dedicated than the guy with 10 years experience. You just can't do all your judgement from a CV/Resume. That is the reason you have an interview.

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter
resume and cv aren't exactly the same.

We generally use CV's as opposed to resume's as the US know it.

Resume (as I understand the US considers a resume to be) is more like your cover letter, which should be around the 1 page mark. But you are correct, your CV should be far in excess of 1 page.

We don't really use a CV much at all here unless you are upper management (think CEO type), a scientist, or something that truly requires it. Otherwise, we just don't use them.
raveed
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Originally posted by igottaknow
I get the feeling interviewers are more interested in how do you respond to a tough question.


That might be true but they arn't exactly going to entertain anyone who walks into the door and ask them tough questions right? Thats where the resume comes in.

Its been said many times before but 'Think of your resume as a personal extension of your brand' . Summarize your strenghts in a few bullet points on the top and back those up with actual results you acheived on the job. A lot of people stick to the functional resume format instead of chronological and babble on about their strengths without any actual eveidence to back
it up.

I understand you might have a number of years of experience behind you but if you are applying for a job in management , focus on your results rather than every activity that you participated in (this shows you are trying to hard to prove yourself)Managers often consider 2 page resumes (unless you have 10+ years of experience) to be a sign that the applicant does not know how to separate the trivial from what matters. You have to see how you can highlight your accomplishments in the 30 seconds or less that HR and managers spend reviewing your resume.

Also, especially if you are looking for an opportunity in the line of business, use active verbs in your resume - bullet points that start with a word that emphasize you took action. Words like collaborated , pioneered, engaged show you as being the person who took charge even if you title doesnt necessarily say manager.

Another point that seems to be an area where applicants screw up often is the hobbies and activities - experts always say that only document hobbies that show skills that would be beneficial to the job that you are applying for. Its funny how people put in watching tv , travelling etc like it actually matters to the job. Hobbies like coin collecting (shows attention to detail) , deal seeking like never paying retail price for purchases (shows ability to cut costs). These are traits that can help your chances of getting the interview but ofcourse are no substitute for your actual professional achievements.

SYSTEM-J
I have a question for the guys here who have recruitment experience: when applying by email is it better to attach a covering letter along with the CV, or put the covering letter into the email body? I always think it's a bit awkward to write in the email "Please find attached my covering letter" which then says "Please find attached my CV".
tachobg
I always write the cover letter in the message body. Makes it seem more like I'm talking to them and reaching out to them, rather than informally handing them "application materials". The only times I've attached a cover letter were when someone else was forwarding an application for me.
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