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| jchung52 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
College gets you a job and University makes you smart.
I have a B.Sc. degree in Geography with a minor in anthropology...I use a lot of that in my insurance adjusting job.
Unfortunately, in this day in age very few companies will even look at a resume if you don't have a post secondary degree or diploma. |
and to weed people who create fb groups like
this out
for those who have fb blocked:
" for a city of over 440,000 people one would think there would be many available salaried employment opportunities of which in this new age is NON-EXISTANT !
In the last 3 years I have gone through over 100 resumes and applications to various businesses and receive the same response, "theres nothing available at this time".
I AM SICK OF THE BULL !
I want this city to give me a purpose and not a temporary contract position receiving LESS than what the normal wage is for a permanent employee !
I am sick of seeing London CLUTTERED WITH MINIMUM WAGE JOBS, its an honest JOKE and employers should be ASHAMED of themselves ...
I am TIRED of wasting my time applying to countless large companies you would think would need an extra employee, but no obtaining a good paying job with a wage over $15.00/hour is a thing of the past !
IS IT THAT HARD TO FIND A $35,000/year position !!!!
IN LONDON IT IS !
THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE AND IT NEEDS TO CHANGE NOW !!!!! " |
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| VDub |
That person is striving for 35k????
Wow for low expectations...
And Chem yes it took 8 years but you got there and then some by now...
My question was for the people who go through all of this schooling and have no chance of getting that minimum..
There are jobs out there where you don't need any education and they pay
min 65-70....
Pitiful I know... |
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| Jay Leno |
| quote: | Originally posted by VDub
There are jobs out there where you don't need any education and they pay
min 65-70....
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Examples? |
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| VDub |
Construction for one...
So many uneducated idiots making $32 an hour plus OT and doing a
horrible job too... |
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| Intangible |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jay Leno
Examples? |
public transit |
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| *~LiSa-LoO~* |
| quote: | Originally posted by jchung52
It definitely opens up more options than just a high school diploma if that's what you are trying to get at. But these days, you need more than just a BA |
Definitely! So many people are getting their Master's degrees and other higher education that it easily weeds out people with just an undergraduate. An undergrad used to be the norm, now the expectation is much higher I find.
My personal goal has always been to make over $100K a year. But I know that would be at the top of my career and take years to get to. |
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| Intangible |
Yup
I always say that a bachelor degree is just a license to hunt for a job, but it doesnt really put you ahead. |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
Definitely! So many people are getting their Master's degrees and other higher education that it easily weeds out people with just an undergraduate. An undergrad used to be the norm, now the expectation is much higher I find. |
depends on the industry
from what I hear - overqualified is more of a b*tch then underqualified
I heard of Schulich business school grads unable to secure a job after graduation, or even later - and these guys are always guaranteed a placement! I was working within the 3 weeks of my graduation ceremony
we had a temp last summer with an MBA, lol, doing filing for me, and I just have a BA
| quote: | Originally posted by Intangible
Yup
I always say that a bachelor degree is just a license to hunt for a job, but it doesnt really put you ahead. |
at the end of the day, companies need competent and experienced candidates, not someone with a bunch of degrees and diplomas who doesn't know what's what in the real world
it's all relative really
plus, the more you build your resume around your work experience and skills you gained while on the job, the less they will look at what you did in school x number of years ago
continuing education while on the job is a good idea (a lot of companies encourage and pay for that)
having said that, a solid degree(s) is always a good starter when you just join the 9-5 world |
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| Intangible |
| quote: | Originally posted by FunkyCrew
depends on the industry
from what I hear - overqualified is more of a b*tch then underqualified
I heard of Schulich business school grads unable to secure a job after graduation, or even later - and these guys are always guaranteed a placement! I was working within the 3 weeks of my graduation ceremony
we had a temp last summer with an MBA, lol, doing filing for me, and I just have a BA
at the end of the day, companies need competent and experienced candidates, not someone with a bunch of degrees and diplomas who doesn't know what's what in the real world
it's all relative really
plus, the more you build your resume around your work experience and skills you gained while on the job, the less they will look at what you did in school x number of years ago
continuing education while on the job is a good idea (a lot of companies encourage and pay for that)
having said that, a solid degree(s) is always a good starter when you just join the 9-5 world |
There are MANY companies who will not fill an executive position (or even some a many manager positions) with a person who does not have their Masters.
In many fields/companies you can only go so far with you bachelor degree.
That being said masters serves VERY different purposes in different fields. For example, in engineering, architecture, law, and sciences its common (or necessary) to get your masters immediately after your bachelor degree. However in business it is often frowned upon to get your MBA right after, most schools want you to have at least a few years of work experience (which is what I'll be doing) |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Intangible
There are MANY companies who will not fill an executive position (or even some a many manager positions) with a person who does not have their Masters.
In many fields/companies you can only go so far with you bachelor degree.
That being said masters serves VERY different purposes in different fields. For example, in engineering, architecture, law, and sciences its common (or necessary) to get your masters immediately after your bachelor degree. However in business it is often frowned upon to get your MBA right after, most schools want you to have at least a few years of work experience (which is what I'll be doing) |
there are even more companies who won't hire an exec unless they have 7+ year work experience - which ties in with getting an MBA anyway, since you will need to work before going into it
the way I see it - once you get our foot in the door, and work you way through and up, BA's and MBA's can be relative (having my industry in mind)
also people sometimes graduate with slightly general BA's - even my degree would have been very general if I didn't chose an area of specialization in my 2nd year
I agree with the 2nd half of your reply though - for MBA you HAVE to have at least 2-3 years work experience (this is what I'm doing right now) |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by VDub
How's it going over there anyway??? |
lol. everyday is a bit of adventure... if you've been keeping up with the news in this region |
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| Dior Homme |
| quote: | Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
I hate that anticipation. Since I started my program, the intensity of the anticipation has increased significantly as well b/c most exams are 100% of our grade, and if you fail a class you fail the year. :nervous: |
I am in the same boat. If you fail one course you fail the year. And so a 4 year program will take 5 years. I'm a bit older than a lot of the kids I go to school with so I don't have any time to waste. I've already put my life on hold for this so this would be a huge blow to my ideal plans.
I just finished my second year and its still very early to fail something. If it was 3rd or 4th year I can understand. But still...
I compare the wait of marks being published to a pregnancy scare. |
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