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What's the measure of individual human success? (pg. 10)
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Chimney
Drop the omni potent philosophy bullcrap. |
Are you talking about my first post? |
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| Chimney |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Are you talking about my first post? |
I apologize, a misinterpretation on my side. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Chimney
I apologize, a misinterpretation on my side. |
It's cool, I was actually rather puzzled here trying to understand what I had done wrong :p |
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| WittyHandle |
| quote: | Originally posted by Schadenfreude
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Nice one Jay :haha: |
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| Chimney |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
It's cool, I was actually rather puzzled here trying to understand what I had done wrong :p |
The truth is that I've been trying to talk to you in a long time, but didn't know how. I admire you comrade. Many times I walk around this empty village of mine wondering how many hours a day you read and if I could ask for some psychology/philosophy recommendations.
(i'm a shy boy) :( |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
My whole point, which you've spectacularly failed to grasp, is the one contributing factor to a one aspect (well being) of your life is not a measure of success, unless you follow your own rickety argument through and also count your physical environment as a measure of success. More saliently, you never picked up on things like physical fitness as measures of success, because those don't sound nearly as humble and righteous as saying you live for your family and friends.
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No, I didn't ing fail to grasp it. I said ALL OF THOSE THINGS COMBINED, as in they're all interlinked. As in, you would have to look at ALL areas to get a FULL PICTURE of well-being. Furthermore, this whole business about humble and righteous is just an assumption you're making.
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
if you judge people as "successful" or not based on their social network, or even their health, you are a tard.
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I never said that, for 's sake. My point was that those things are part of the foundation to achieving success. Does the person with good health and a strong social network not have a better chance at achieving "success" than the one that doesn't? What good are goals if you don't have the resources to actually be able to achieve them? Unless of course your goal is to be in poor health, struggling to make ends meet, hungry all the time, nobody around to help you, no education, constantly discriminated against, etc.
Yeah I can see how measuring a person's well-being is totally a ing stupid way to judge their success. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Chimney
The truth is that I've been trying to talk to you in a long time, but didn't know how. I admire you comrade. Many times I walk around this empty village of mine wondering how many hours a day you read and if I could ask for some psychology/philosophy recommendations.
(i'm a shy boy) :( |
It'd be my pleasure to talk about any of these topics, though I'm an amateurs in these areas. Send me a pm or an e-mail... or else, we can post a super-thread about lofty discussions that only a handful of people here would probably care about :p |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
I never said that, for 's sake. |
Earlier when I said "If you compare everyone in the world and decide that they're successful or unsuccessful based on their social network then you're a tard" you replied with "Wrong." From that I got a pretty strong idea you thought my statement was... wrong.
| quote: | Originally posted by Schadenfreude
girl: let me suck your system
system j : you are wrong to do so, sucking is not subjective |
I like how in your head horny women are constantly throwing themselves at me and I'm fending them off with obstinate logic. |
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| Schadenfreude |
| naw, i've seen pics:p |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I like how in your head horny women are constantly throwing themselves at me and I'm fending them off with obstinate logic. |
That's his way to show affection. Much like me taking the trouble to mock you - though it's hard for me to take anyone seriously, my most playful self shows up with people I like :) |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Earlier when I said "If you compare everyone in the world and decide that they're successful or unsuccessful based on their social network then you're a tard" you replied with "Wrong." From that I got a pretty strong idea you thought my statement was... wrong.
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Because you ARE wrong. You absolutely can use it as a measure, specifically because of its links to OTHER benefits. And, again, you misunderstood my point to mean I thought ONLY social networks were an indicator of success.
Sure, I said that I feel my personal relationships are an indicator of my success, because I value love in my life over everything else. Moreover, I have it in my life exactly because I have "success" in all those other areas, which means I don't have stress confounding the ability to have good relationships i.e., I don't have to work very hard at it. Who are you to say that's wrong, smug, or righteous? You could say that about placing any value above another. Furthermore, you said the same ing thing yourself, that you don't have to work hard at personal relationships. That sounds pretty ing smug to me.
Based on what I just said, it would be ing redundant to go on about "the number of things I set out to achieve and come back victorious." My relationships/social network are a testament to that, if you haven't got it by now. |
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| Lilith |
Individual human success is just that, some people might share some aspects of 'success' with others but ultimately its a bar and achievement that is personal. Success as a measure will sometimes have a higher or lower standard and quite frequently change over time depending on outside influences, ideas and circumstance. If you asked me at 10, 20 and now, 30, what I considered successful in my life it would be vastly different as it probably will be at 40.
At 19, I was essentially tamed from the last of my wild childhood silliness and given a mentor, job and enough education to focus on what I wanted to be successful. At the time independence and financial security where a priority and I began to focus on those to ensure myself the fundamental necessities of life to a level I was going to be happy with. The actual methods, setbacks, failures, hard work and eventual achievement of those goals to my set level of expectations was eventually achieved and I now find myself in something of a limbo again figuring out my next set of goals to achieve in life.
They are formulating along the lines of being introspective rather than progressive as I'm maintaining my health, relationships and security. Not something you can easily stick a number on or measure of success like a passing mark in an exam. |
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