Originally posted by Magadansky
Well, this is the bad part in most cases - how you pass yourself in front of the audience. The problem of getting too big is exactly this. You just can't get away from the stereotype the public has for you. You are J00F, you have to play prog trance/house.
If i recall, in his 2001 essential mix he dropped an Astral Project track (if you consider them goa)
I certainty don't think J00F is scared to play different styles.
TranceElevation
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Originally posted by djnitride
ROFL
Have you listened to Johns 2001/2010 essential mix?
Heard enough of his mixes to tell you he ain't far from those he criticize.
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Originally posted by djnitride
And the bit of psy added in makes the tracks more interesting and dynamic, and at times much deeper. Its what makes John stand out from the pack. I would hardly say his sound is dull and boring. He uses interesting bass lines, creative percussion, and NOT EVERY ING TRACK HE CREATES IS AN ANTHEM (THANK GOD)
Than listen directly to psy instead of expecting some crumb from your "guru/god".
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Originally posted by djnitride
You just hate psy because its not as accessible and you cannot understand it (a good thing, keep all the sheep out), unlike unicorn magic rainbow trance which is a gigantic plur furry fest.
I probably love psy much more than you and infact I listen to it rather than praying some mediocre producer that totaly fails merging it with his crap.
Full psy is way more interesting and free than his boring attempts.
djnitride
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Originally posted by TranceElevation
Heard enough of his mixes to tell you he ain't far from those he criticize.
How can anyone not like his 2001 mix is completely beyond me. Personally I think it personifies everything good in trance.
His mixes are FAR from those he criticize, his production skills as well.
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Originally posted by TranceElevation
Than listen directly to psy instead of expecting some crumb from your "guru/god".
I probably love psy much more than you and infact I listen to it rather than praying some mediocre producer that totaly fails merging it with his crap.
Full psy is way more interesting and free than his boring attempts.
Rofl, full on psy gets ing boring. Its the same damn bassline over and over and over... Not that I don't like it, the sound is just limited and has grown stale. But track after track of full on? Common man....
Trancefxs
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Originally posted by TranceElevation
Full psy is way more interesting and free than his boring attempts.
It is useless to criticize, if you don't provide examples of what JOOF should produce, according to you, to actually make the claim he does.
Also what does being "way more free" even mean? Do you think he is forced by his followers to produce what he produces?!
ziptnf
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Originally posted by djnitride
Rofl, full on psy gets ing boring. Its the same damn bassline over and over and over... Not that I don't like it, the sound is just limited and has grown stale. But track after track of full on? Common man....
Hey, mate, watch it. I spin full-on sets! :mad:
:p
I do agree with you, that's why you have to do a lot of digging to find good tracks that don't sound like 90% of the trash out there.
@TranceElevation: his crowds don't do psytrance anymore, so he has to do the next best thing, prog trance with a hint of prog-psy. His Psytrance Euphoria mixtapes don't come close to the real power of psy, but he provides the most accessible of the bunch. If he went up there and started spinning hardcore Twilight or Forest psy, a whole bunch of people would be confused.
I really want him to come in this thread and put you to shame, it's one thing to sit here and trash the man for making productions that aren't as cool as real psytrance, but he's going out and flattening dancefloors every week and you don't consider that. He's just playing what the kids want, and a majority of the time, it's better than the garbage the Top 10 is playing.
djnitride
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Originally posted by ziptnf
Hey, mate, watch it. I spin full-on sets! :mad:
:p
I do agree with you, that's why you have to do a lot of digging to find good tracks that don't sound like 90% of the trash out there.
I have nothing against good full on bro :) don't take that the wrong way. What I am saying is I like my basslines changed up. J00F drops some full on tracks, which I like.
I just dont like ty full on track after ty full on track (there seems to be alot of in the genre, just like there is alot of in epic trance.)
If the tracks are good, of course it does not matter :) but like I said, I prefer my basslines changed up and while I really like psy trance, I simply prefer what J00F spins. If that makes me one of those kids, then so be it, but I simply dig J00F's style whether it be his productions or mixes which take me to another dimension. Isn't that what trance music is all about in the first place :)
And I do occasionally listen to forest trance when the settings are right hehe
TranceElevation
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Originally posted by djnitride
How can anyone not like his 2001 mix is completely beyond me. Personally I think it personifies everything good in trance.
His mixes are FAR from those he criticize, his production skills as well.
Rofl, full on psy gets ing boring. Its the same damn bassline over and over and over... Not that I don't like it, the sound is just limited and has grown stale. But track after track of full on? Common man....
I didn't mean the sub-genre full-on you ! Was telling you that I'd listen to a psychedelic track than something from J00F that has only "some elements" of the genre. If you like something take all of it rather than being satisfied with less - and mediocre.
The problem here is that nowadays, if some famous producer/dj (JOOF, Activa) come here telling how bad is the current scene, everybody fall on his knees praying the god for telling us something we already knew!
The point is that if you're out there and spit on the scene you should be able to bring something different.
Now tell me concretely, in what the latest productions by Activa are different (more special) than the tons of uplifting we receive daily by the various shows? In absolutely nothing. The same electric bassline, the same (epic) breakdown, the same track structure, the same boring formula. At least if the melody was somehow special? But neither this. So Activa, J00F and all those acting whores can go and take it in their asses.
trancedanne
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Originally posted by TranceElevation
I didn't mean the sub-genre full-on you ! Was telling you that I'd listen to a psychedelic track than something from J00F that has only "some elements" of the genre. If you like something take all of it rather than being satisfied with less - and mediocre.
The problem here is that nowadays, if some famous producer/dj (JOOF, Activa) come here telling how bad is the current scene, everybody fall on his knees praying the god for telling us something we already knew!
The point is that if you're out there and spit on the scene you should be able to bring something different.
Now tell me concretely, in what the latest productions by Activa are different (more special) than the tons of uplifting we receive daily by the various shows? In absolutely nothing. The same electric bassline, the same (epic) breakdown, the same track structure, the same boring formula. At least if the melody was somehow special? But neither this. So Activa, J00F and all those acting whores can go and take it in their asses.
Once again you FAIL
djnitride
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Originally posted by TranceElevation
I didn't mean the sub-genre full-on you ! Was telling you that I'd listen to a psychedelic track than something from J00F that has only "some elements" of the genre. If you like something take all of it rather than being satisfied with less - and mediocre.
The problem here is that nowadays, if some famous producer/dj (JOOF, Activa) come here telling how bad is the current scene, everybody fall on his knees praying the god for telling us something we already knew!
The point is that if you're out there and spit on the scene you should be able to bring something different.
Now tell me concretely, in what the latest productions by Activa are different (more special) than the tons of uplifting we receive daily by the various shows? In absolutely nothing. The same electric bassline, the same (epic) breakdown, the same track structure, the same boring formula. At least if the melody was somehow special? But neither this. So Activa, J00F and all those acting whores can go and take it in their asses.
HAH, thats funny because even before Activa came out and said that, I had played his CD "This World" over 30 times. You can check my last.fm if you really want, Activa is one of my most played artists. I also liked J00F before his essential mix, who would have known?
Activa makes quality uplifting trance, some of the only stuff I listen to. His music is loads better than anjunabeats, armada, flashover, and black hole all put together.
His music is different, your taste is simply if you cannot see Activa has his own style, a drive beyond that over other uplifting producers. His buildups and breakdowns are not over the top, his music more progressive. I like the techy elements in his tracks. And for uplifting trance, his music is much deeper than other producers. I would say his style comes much closer to a more techy and a bit more cheesy Airwave than say, Above & Beyond.
Talk all the you want, but you couldn't tell a quality tune if it slapped you in the face.
Timber
J00F Is the one of few that play/make real music, not pop and sell out like others.
J00F is not overrated. Troll!!
TranceElevation
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Originally posted by trancedanne
Once again you FAIL
Ha ha, I knew it someone was going to post this one. How predictable you have to be...
The only problem is that even this one is bad in its try. Basically a track from the 90's with today's music equipment.
TranceElevation
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Originally posted by djnitride
HAH, thats funny because even before Activa came out and said that, I had played his CD "This World" over 30 times. You can check my last.fm if you really want, Activa is one of my most played artists. I also liked J00F before his essential mix, who would have known?
Activa makes quality uplifting trance, some of the only stuff I listen to. His music is loads better than anjunabeats, armada, flashover, and black hole all put together.
His music is different, your taste is simply if you cannot see Activa has his own style, a drive beyond that over other uplifting producers. His buildups and breakdowns are not over the top, his music more progressive. I like the techy elements in his tracks. And for uplifting trance, his music is much deeper than other producers. I would say his style comes much closer to a more techy and a bit more cheesy Airwave than say, Above & Beyond.
Talk all the you want, but you couldn't tell a quality tune if it slapped you in the face.
From what I could see till now you have a very low exigence from music.
And if you're ok with Activa's latest productions I can't really see why someone as you should bash the current scene. Infact I could name tens of recent producers that are equivalent to Activa.
Really, if is this what you're asking from trance so you should stop complaining and just enjoy what's been produced nowadays.
Or maybe you're doing it just to follow the bashing trend? Do you wanna feel a part of something that seems cool to you?
