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Why are people avoiding the Producer Promotion forum? (pg. 4)
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cryophonik
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Originally posted by sleeping
Im not a big poster here, nor the other forum, but i think it would be a good thing with one forum with finished productions and one with wip´s.


I was always under the assumption that we sorta had this already. The "CD Reviews / New Releases Discussion" forum is where signed songs that are going to be released get posted, and that the "Music Producer's Promotion" forum is where WIPs get posted.
nortek
WIP?
EddieZilker
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Originally posted by nortek
WIP?


Work In Progress
EddieZilker
quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
I was always under the assumption that we sorta had this already. The "CD Reviews / New Releases Discussion" forum is where signed songs that are going to be released get posted, and that the "Music Producer's Promotion" forum is where WIPs get posted.


There seems to be a gray line there, where it's tolerated for regulars to post things they're planning on releasing commercially. I tend to drop stuff I'm releasing there but then I'm not really opening any commercial channels either and I like to get feedback for ideas I try to fold into future productions.
theterran
PP seems a mix between the unfriendly and the /ignore unless you're a local name.

My first time posting in there was not a very friendly experience anyway. (Eddie, bless his kind heart, made it a bit better )

I'm fairly new around here myself. From the boards I've browsed, many of the local producers here produce better stuff than most.(which is why I'm lurking around still :))

I'm not sure how everything sounds the same to some of ya...Aside from the typical sub-genre rule stipulations, which keep songs of that sub-genre sounding similar, the tracks posted in the PP sound varied enough to me. (With a few exceptions)

Maybe I just haven't listened to enough trance...*shrug*

I liked the idea about a WIP section. I assume that any track where you're looking for some feedback on it before you're sending it to a label is a WIP. Short-track, long track, doesn't make a difference does it? Would be nice to see less "stop posting your unfinished !" (which is fair if a producer is only putting out his WIPs and can't finish a fking track >=|)

I've had tracks go from WIP to "finished" with the help of these boards though...

[rant]Lastly, it's so amusing to me that people feel the need to bitch about mediocrity, in a place where there is obviously a distinct shortage of critical feedback.

If a ty track gets 0 feedback, it will probably remain a ty track. So bravo, those of you who don't give feedback on tracks for whatever reason, you are only helping the problem.[/rant]

I think the do unto others philosophy would work well here. "I like my commented on, you do too, so lets work something out :D"
sleeping
quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
I was always under the assumption that we sorta had this already. The "CD Reviews / New Releases Discussion" forum is where signed songs that are going to be released get posted, and that the "Music Producer's Promotion" forum is where WIPs get posted.

Yes you´re right. But i meant finished songs from members of the board that not necessarily have to be signed. Just a finished production that you want to hear people thoughts on.
Joss Weatherby
I hate it cause usually the post on stupid hosting sites where I have to jump through to listen to a track thats probably not even that good.


Hence why we have things like Soundcloud and even the free hosting that Wrz and I provide for any TA member thats registered longer than 6 months.
RickyM
I haven't been in that subforum in ages...but last time I checked it was full of threads with 0-3 replies...it used to be good too when I first joined TA.
Aesthetic
For a witt you raise a valid point

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Originally posted by RickyM
I haven't been in that subforum in ages...but last time I checked it was full of threads with 0-3 replies...it used to be good too when I first joined TA.
RickyM
quote:
Originally posted by Aesthetic
For a witt you raise a valid point


Thank you David :)

DJ Robby Rox
I USE to post my tracks over there when I was a newbie but since then have pretty much ignored the rules.

I do this for 2 main reasons.

1) Almost nobody leaves feedback in PP

2) Because I've established a "relationship" with users in the production forum, and it changes a lot of things.

To elaborate. When I post over in PP nobody knows my name, I could just be another random dickhole who doesn't contribute to the forums for all they know.
Over here, even though not everyone likes me, people still know my name and KNOW I'm a regular poster. If I see a track in this forum I'll be glad to leave feedback, its much more personal, I get better advice because people are familiar with my past sticky points, and the quality of the advice in this forum overall is just more personal/honest.

Over in PP I get very nonpersonal responses, and its usually not even feedback I'm looking for. Its either "good track" or "needs work" while over here I get a much more elaborate explanation about WHAT needs work.
So I prefer this forum more.

I also notice people posting in PP who I've never seen in my life, and I don't really give a about their music. While over here if I see cyro, jive, sako, kysora, dj rann, m4b or ANY of the regular posters post a track, I actually WANT to listen to it and post a review. So I mainly ... well now I ALWAYS use this forum. As long as I don't overabuse it and post a different track every week, I never really saw a big deal about it. And seeing how rules really aren't enforced on this forum anyhow.. it makes it that much more pointless to really care. Just being honest.
MSZ
haha i remember when i was a teenager, i was here under a different name which i do not remember.

really cool producers like luke terry would comment on my first productions i was ready to share, which was done on fl studio 2 or 3 i believe, man they really did bite but i still remember the niceness that was given, looking back it was pretty amazing. some really sweet producers used to post there but left. i've been posting in there for many years.

only bad experience ive had was with existo sending 2 pages of flames in my thread, then omega not being keen enough to delete the flames. i would love to help mod that section in the future if possible.
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