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NEW... Allen & Heath Mixer.... DB4 (pg. 2)
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| miamitranceman |
| Direct attack on Pio no doubt. How are all you 42 users doing out there btw?:p |
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| Tony Morello |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
It's not my favorite in terms of looks, but I just think they've overdone it.
It's a DJM 800 killer for sure, in terms of quality and function but there's just too much going on there and too many button squashed on to such a small interface.
It also only has one set of balanced outs which is a big oversight for club install IMO. |
+1, i'd like to see videos of what it can do, looks like something you'd need to operate sober, certainly not the best idea for a club install |
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| keithos27 |
| quote: | Originally posted by skip
Tries to do it all, but then not really. I don't see this succeeding. They should try to come up with a replacement for Xone:92 which would add some stuff and improve a few things instead of these weird mixers with all sorts of functionality, but still some stuff missing.
Also seems a bit weird to have effects on an Allen & Heath mixer. That seems so Pioneer to me. |
agreed!
i guess they are trying to cater to the CDJ/vinyl crowd that would like to use FX without having to go software (or separate EFX unit, if they even make those anymore, hehe). |
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| jupiterone |
| doesn't look too bad. but i have been feeling lately that A&H has complete disregard for the way their dj mixers look the past few years. very toyish and silly |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by jupiterone
doesn't look too bad. but i have been feeling lately that A&H has complete disregard for the way their dj mixers look the past few years. very toyish and silly |
yep. looks like they hired numark's industrial designer |
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| jupiterone |
still waiting for the day some company comes up with the (rather obvious) idea to make a mixer that brings back the look of analog 80's mixers. simple designs, but very attractive designs
of course this is a recording console, but things similar to the knobs of the neve 8078, or the neve 5088. even the look and feel of older moogs or synthi a's
actual design and weight of the knobs and parts that makes you know it was built with love. sure a&h parts are good, but the designs are horrible lately. cheap looking faceplates, colors, knobs and a toyish design idea.
i mean, even smaller companies are making better looking interfaces and gear
wish some company would finally come out with a mixer that represents the true age of analog and great sounding gear |
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| xtr3m |
So, it's a DJM-800 but A&H way.
The 92 is still sex. |
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| darouge11 |
| ugliest mixer ive ever seen...wwwwoooowwwwww...cant wait to get my 92 tho :D |
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| keithos27 |
| i have a 92 rotary from 5 years ago... did they stop offering the rotary now-a-days? it seems like all of their new mixers are fader only... |
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| nortek |
| i dont understand what marked this is aimed for that the Xone series didnt already cover. some companies lack vision, eventhough they make quality products. i hate products that really doesnt have any purpose. |
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| Stu Cox |
They're going for the DJM800 'FX + stuff' market, quite possibly for all those fidget house people who can't let a track play for more than 20 seconds without a stutter or a spinback. A&H haven't done a mixer with FX other than filters before, so this does offer something they haven't before.
It's got a built-in soundcard, so for example this + a Kontrol X1 + a laptop with Traktor would be all you'd need... no additional sound card. Xone:4D obviously has this, but it's huge. And obviously you won't be able to rely on it being in the booth when you play in clubs.
Filters on every channel - well, Pioneer did that to an extent with the DJM800, but these look more powerful and you've also got delay, reverb, a resonance sweep effect, 'MOD' (flanger?) and 'DMG' (a bitcrusher or distortion maybe?) on each channel. Again - the 800 had the ability to put a bitcrusher and a simple sweep effect, but these look much more powerful.
When I say 'powerful', I primarily mean they give you more control, which - if you do use effects - means you can use them more subtly, which is vital IMO. If you don't use effects, surely you'll appreciate that DJs who rape the orange button might become a bit more controlled with this mixer?
I guess we'll have to wait for the proper release to find out exactly what the beat-synced effects can do.
So no, not massively exciting, but it could quite happily replace the DJM800 in some clubs, if the thick modern DJ population don't decide that it looks a bit too complicated for them... which they might.
We said there wasn't a place for the DJM700, but that's been quite popular as a cheaper alternative to the 800! |
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| DJ RANN |
Good post stu.
The DJM700 worked just because the 800 is so damn expensive - it was a crafty move by pio to tap in the aspirational buyer by making a cheaper version of a very expensive mixer.
Looking agin at the pic, I think they've got a couple of things wrong:
The faders look quite short and are quite closely packed together.
I really worry about the tiny eq/iso switch being right in that eq section - even those with small hands are gonna find themselves knocking that switch when working the EQ's, let alone my banana like fingers.
I actually liked the fact that A&H didn't go the FX route on their mixers and just had good filters - seems like a step in the wrong direction as the novelty of FX wear off on DJ's and punters like.
@jupiter - tbh, these things go in cycles - different periods of design get resurrected periodically. Just look at the moog products which became cool again 10 years ago, using design purposefully taken from the 70's. |
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