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NEW... Allen & Heath Mixer.... DB4 (pg. 6)
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Stu Cox
quote:
Originally posted by PivotTechno
What exactly is too expensive these days? Please elaborate.

Whether intentional or not, he's right in that developing analogue hardware is a lot more expensive than developing digital hardware these days.

There's so much risk involved in developing high quality feature-full analogue hardware in that all you really have is a best guess that your design will function correctly and not be susceptible to noise when you send the circuit boards etc off to be manufactured. If when they come back it turns out there's too much cross-talk, or amplifier gains or bandwidths have been compromised, rework is really expensive and delays your time to market.

Digital systems, on the other hand, usually have a handful of reprogrammable digital chips at the centre of the design which do all of the clever processing - if you get it wrong first time, you just correct it in your firmware and reprogram the chips. Not risk-free by any means, but a lot less risky than an equivalent analogue design.
discobiscuit
quote:
Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
this mixer can suck my balls


Won't your mom be jealous?
nortek
i was dead serious. even amplifiers should hurry up and be digital. this way we can avoid dacs all the way until the speaker-drivers and therefore have 100% control over freq-balance and distortion. people like analog because of its distorted sound, well that should be in the original track then, not the gear. the gear should reproduce the original track as close as it can. analog must die (in this part of the chain).
DJ RANN
Oh good ing lord, the flame bait from hell!

Got.....to......resist....... :whip:
nortek
lol go on i can stand up for myself haha. my point is this mixer is too expensive.
orTofønChiLd
quote:
Originally posted by discobiscuit
Won't your mom be jealous?


u shut ur trap, if you know wuts good for you newb
discobiscuit
quote:
Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
u shut ur trap, if you know wuts good for you newb


Ok 2008 lol uve bren around for a while...

I spin for crowds of 500+ 3-4 nights a week for 6 years! Bussiest clubs bussiest nights... What about u? Newb...

And earlier in thread ur bashing me for hating on the mixer. A page or two later ur hating on the mixer too. Jump on the bandwagon newb... be a good little follower
discobiscuit
Lets see u mix some hip hop newbie
darouge11
quote:
Originally posted by discobiscuit
Lets see u mix some hip hop newbie


dude stfu, you think your hot because you been here longer, and you spin in front of people...I seen some stupid posts from you...and dont ask what, because its not worth my time to dig
Stu Cox
Before you go too off-course, can we stick to talking about the mixer rather than diving into another willy waving competition?

Maybe it says something if A&H, who we know are sound purists, reckon that it costs this much to make an FX-filled mixer?

I reckon those who get the chance to have a go on one of these will see that the FX sound worlds above the Pioneer equivalents. Pio FX have always sounded really obviously digital to me, but I haven't had anything to compare them with. So I'm intrigued to see what these sound like.

discobiscuit
Ok back on topic.. im pretty much in agreement w everyone else. Too expensive. Dont like the eqs. And im not a big fan of efx. The djm800 has been out for a while now im sure pioneer is already working on a mixer to rival this. Ill just stick with my ttm 57sl. I do think im gonna be adding some novation dicers to my setup here soon cuz i use turntables and they are perfect for me. A&h shoulda came out w a mixer like this years ago pioneer already won that market over.
feelgood
Get rid of all that gaudy white outlining and it might look semi decent. I'd never be in the market for something like that, so I don't care too much.

For that price tag, it better give you a blow job.
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