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What is the Beethoven's 5th of dance music? (pg. 5)
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
How about you drink a a bit of that yourself?
If you;re going to try to pull someone up on "facts" make sure you have them right yourself in the first place :rolleyes:
There were actually 24 instrumental, and 19 of those happened between 1953 and 1963, before the official charts were formed in to the body it is now.
The UK official chart show listed Children as as a no 1, but top of the pops did not, so it was relegated historically to a number 2. |
I'm citing from the Guinness Book Of Chart Records. You're arguing with official chart history, which also has Doop - Doop has an instrumental.
Seems a long way from "Children was the first instrumental #1" to "Children was the first instrumental dance #1 in the UK if you discount Doop, and it didn't officially reach #1 at all because of TOTP".
Children sold 5,000,000 copies worldwide and is definitely a contender for biggest dance record ever. However, Moby's album "Play" sold 10,000,000 copies, had nine hit singles and every single track was famously beaten to death on TV, in films and in advertising (and still are). If we're talking about an instantly recognisable and ubiquitous opening to a piece of music that most people could not name and have never heard in full, I'd have to nominate a track like Moby's "Porcelain". |
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| pointPi |
In EDM, the bassline is an extremely essential element.
However, the bass is a very young element in western music. Beethoven saw the bass as a novelty. Thus there is no EDM equalivent that doesn't make him turn in his grave.
Personally, I prefer Tomas Albinoni's Adagio in G Minor. By the way, didn't Tiësto make a remix of that piece, named Athens? In that case, Tiësto - Athens it is... |
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| Rodri Santos |
| the best version of the Adagio Albinoni is Phalanx - Symphony in G minor (Club Mix) |
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| Mad for Brad |
| quote: | Originally posted by pointPi
In EDM, the bassline is an extremely essential element.
However, the bass is a very young element in western music. Beethoven saw the bass as a novelty. Thus there is no EDM equalivent that doesn't make him turn in his grave.
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Not that young. 15 th century although then it was just a big ass violin with 3 strings. Beethoven I would say was one of the first to actually write unique parts for the double bass that did not involve just doubling the cellos. He was very close to Dragonneti one of the first very well known double bass virtuosos. I also think the fact beethoven was going deaf made the bass more salient to him. Mozart also did double bass concertos. I don't think the instrument became a true virtuosic instrument until technical refinements were made in the early 20th century.
I think what Beethoven would of hated about EDM was not bass but rather the lack of creativity. I think most dead composers would of found the whole field of synths rather cool. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| Yeah it would be cool to hear what Debussy would do with synths. |
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| tehlord |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mad for Brad
I think most dead composers would of found the whole field of synths rather cool. |
You only have to watch Bill and Ted to prove that. |
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| Rodri Santos |
| i think all classical composers would punish current producers badly, in melodical terms it's obvious that nobody has beaten them, Hans Zimmer scores and Immediate music are quite good though. And dealing with a synth... they made music from cans and rudimentary material so i think that only the idea of having a tool to get all the sounds they want would be enough to kill them by euphoria. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
Uhh, acoustic instruments had hundreds of years of design evolution and thought put into them. Even today people try to "emulate" their sounds and often fail badly.
They are hardly the equivalent of "cans," LOL. |
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| Rodri Santos |
| was kinda joking but rest assured that the 15th century piano wasn't as easy to play as it is now. |
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| tehlord |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rodri Santos
was kinda joking but rest assured that the 15th century piano wasn't as easy to play as it is now. |
that's because it was invented in the 18th century |
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| Rodri Santos |
| it's backgrounds clavichord, clavinova... pianos in short they are possibly older |
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| Andy28 |
| quote: | Originally posted by tehlord
You only have to watch Bill and Ted to prove that. |
was thinking the same as i read down the posts.
Party on dude! |
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